RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] RE: Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from Consumercci-dt

["Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Isn't this getting the cart before the horse? The Council should be
allowed to act before sending such a letter.


Tim

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [gnso-consumercci-dt] RE: Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from
> Consumercci-dt
> From: Rosemary Sinclair <rosemary.sinclair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sat, July 30, 2011 5:12 pm
> To: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam@xxxxxxxxx>,       
> "gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Here is the letter I have asked Stephane to send.....if you have any
> comments or suggestions please feel free to come back to me...
> 
> I'm away for a couple of days but will be checking email...
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Rosemary
> ________________________________________
> From: owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> [owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Margie Milam
> [Margie.Milam@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 7:14 AM
> To: gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gnso-consumercci-dt] FW: Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from
> Consumercci-dt
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Please find below the chat transcript from today's call.   Please note
> that the next meeting for this DT is scheduled for 10 Aug at 2000 UTC,
> and will run for 90 minutes.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Margie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: margie.milam@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:margie.milam@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:06 PM
> To: Margie Milam
> Subject: Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from Consumercci-dt
> 
>   CLO:Hi all
>   CLO:*sigh*  pity no one assisted  you in getting it  *right* 
> Rosemary
>   CLO:No point inOCL  & I taking it TO  ALAC  to endorse as a CCWG 
> till GNSO  do what whatever  THEY  so desire   I' ll also hold off on
> what I was proposing woth ccNSO as well  *SOGH*
>   CLO:once it starts  work as a pure GNSO CO  WG  I DOUBT it would 
> morph into a CWG  so WHY  would  the other AC's  & SO's  bother  doing
> other than working our own turf work and so  HAVE  to  spread  our 
> resources   thinky
>   CLO:THinky  = Thinly ...  So  IF  we were to have a copy of the
> probable  GNSO Charter  to work "with"  that would be most useful....
>   Margie Milam:I have posted Wendy's suggestion in the Notes section
> below the agenda
>   CLO:AI  alsoo would be for GNSO  to also  request  formal and
> informal (general) ccNSO, ALAC and GAC "membership/ reps"  for the GNSO 
> WG  Consumer Trust Choice andMetrics  work
>   Rosemary:thanks Margie
>   CLO:Yes  I agree they are not mutually exclusive  BUT  if we were to
> just use  ONE  that would not IMO  satisfy *our (where our = end user /
> consumer / registrant) needs*  to that end  outcomes  that have wider
> more inclusive  definitions to work with would I beleive assist our
> ability  to meet the AoC desired measurements  better...
>   CLO:and YES  we need to be careful about  the term supplier to meet
> pur needs  issue that Steve is raising  now is VERY appointment  re
> suitabliity  to purpose  =>  analogy  consumer care  re utility supply
> origuin is less than choice of quality suply  that meets their needs
> preferably where they can get the "best deal to meet their needs 
> sometimes  that means a start with fewer choices and more limited
> costing diversity  that the changes over time but the utility /service 
> options  will change  this is actually  good for the metrics  use  where
> we can have an assumption  that price points  will lowere  or diversity
> of choice oin price  will continue to occur over time  post gTLD launch
>   CLO:yep  I agree Jonathan  a measure of course of how price *may*
> change over time  could be useful for us to  watch / measure as ongoing
> measure of metrics
>   Jonathan Zuck:Even though we're talking about "generic" TLDs, this
> round is truly going to represent a movement towards the specific and
> away from the generic
>   Alex Gakuru:sharing two links: 1. http://www.domain-price-wars.com/
>   Alex Gakuru:2.
> http://icannwiki.com/index.php?title=Domain_Statistics
>   Steve DelBianco:Competition: the availability, at reasonable prices
> and terms, of TLDs in every script and language, from multiple TLD
> operators.   Competition measures would include relative price
> comparisons, quantitiy of TLD operators, and presence of new entrants as
> TLD operators.
>   Jonathan Zuck:percentage of defensive versus useful registrations
>   Margie Milam:yes-  I'll do it
>   Steve DelBianco:if we use that as the competition definition, we can
> move the "suitable" purpose and script terms into  the CHOICE
> definition
>   CLO:Carlos  assume the  Joint / Cross Community WG  will NOT happen 
> and this is just  work  for the GNSO one that WILL get chartered
>   CLO:yes  this is unfortunate  but it is what it is
>   CLO:issue is we need to get i9n with the work
>   CLO:having  our discussions  recorded ona public  access Wiki  will
> help minimise the frustration of repetition aspect of what Carlos
> raised
>   Alex Gakuru:@jonathan, will all regitrants be asked if 'defensive' or
> 'useful' registrations?
>   CLO:Margie  your both Psycic and a wonder  thanks  saves me asking
> for just that :-)
>   Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:.mi position is : if we want to have an
> inclusive and open joint WG between SO/AC. I think is needed to have the
> opinions about this concepts coming from differents actors evolved. we
> are talking about concepts  very complex to define, and the definition
> will be different from different actors. on the other hand every concept
> (Competition, Consumer choice & consumer trust) are very related among
> them, and all of them have to do with different interest. The discussion
> is very productive, usefull but  not all opinions are here.
>   Jonathan Zuck:well one measure of a defensive registration might be
> whether it's a new site or just a pointer . It's not anything we hold
> anyone to, it's just something to track.
>   CLO:Well Carlos  that very sticky call is VERY much a GNSO  issue
> now/atm  so as a Coincillor  do your best to GET the GNSO  Council to
> support the option OF a Joint  or Cross CWG
>   Jonathan Zuck:@Alex/CLO well one measure of a defensive registration
> might be whether it's a new site or just a pointer . It's not anything
> we hold anyone to, it's just something to track.
>   Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:@Ill try.
>   CLO:Yes  Jonathan  agreed  that would be a useful  deffinition
>   Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:@clo Ill try
>   CLO:  Jonathan  the Board Resolution * I thought*  specified  a
> request for ADVICE  form the AC & SO's
>   CLO:I'm OK  with 14 day breaks  and at thiss time is fine
>   Alex Gakuru:Flexible
>   Debra Hughes:flexible
>   Steve DelBianco:2 weeks and this time is okay
>   john berard:I am OK with every two weeks at this hour
>   CLO:work it  to best  fit in with Margie
>   Steve DelBianco:anyone else think we need 90 minutes instead of an
> hour?
>   CLO:yup  fine by me
>   Jonathan Zuck:90 is fine with me
>   Steve DelBianco:it just seems that we run out of time before we run
> out of steam at 60 m,inutes
>   Alex Gakuru:bye all
>   Debra Hughes:bye
> 
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