[gnso-consumercci-dt] suggestions gathered in Dakar
Hello, all. Are we having our regular call this week? Here are transcripts and notes from Dakar discussions of our Consumer Trust working group. Attached is the transcript from a brief discussion at GNSO Working session on Sat 22-Oct. Also attached are the slides we presented in Dakar on Saturday and Wednesday. Below are my notes from the working session on Wednesday. At bottom is the note I sent to the US GAC representative Suzanne Radell. (no reply received yet) The Consumer Trust working group held an open meeting on Wednesday 26-Oct in Dakar. We went thru the slides in 15 minutes, then opened to discussion for 45 minutes. Several attendees complimented the WG on our progress. Some notable suggestions: Carlos Aguirre: Competition and Choice are inter-related. He's offering this clarification we could add to both definitions: Competition is closely related to the idea of consumer choice. In fact, competition and consumer choice can be seen as two parts of the same whole, since both touch both providers and consumers of service. All stakeholders have an interest in providing choice and in avoiding monopoly in order to create an open and informed market for all participants. Andy Mack, AM Global: May need to move quickly to fit this work into the process of attracting gTLD applications that will achieve these metrics. That is, if we are going to measure the new gTLD program partly on diversity of scripts and languages, then shouldn't the Applicant Support Program be adjusted to attract more IDN scripts? Jeff Brueggeman, ATT: "On slide 11, in addition to market shares I would examine prices, both retail and wholesale, for the new and existing TLDs. Retail for obvious reasons, to see If the prices are high because the new TLD has some market power (see .xxx) or low because it doesn’t (see .net) and to see what happens to .com. Wholesale prices are interesting to the extent that competition forces even the regulated prices such as .com to fall or not." ATT: "you may wish to amend the proposed definition of consumer, which now is internet users and registrants. The issue is that complaints about defensive registrations do not always result from a registrant, but rather from being a trademark owner. Perhaps the definition can be tweaked to include them." ATT: "under Choice, it may be worth adding in something about innovations, beyond just the number of TLDs. For instance, regardless of what one thinks about .xxx they are talking about screening registrants in order to increase credit card acceptance (for some strange reason banks are reluctant to accept most adult websites today)" Wendy Seltzer: we are not being normative in this work. We are attempting to be descriptive of what could be measured, in terms of competition, choice and trust. Dave Cohen: asked if this work will "solve the alternate root problem." DelBianco replied that new TLD metrics could be measured for non-ICANN roots, but any achievements there would not be directly attributable to ICANN's new gLTD program. Annelisa Roger: for Choice we should also measure the geographic diversity of REGISTRANTS in these new TLDs. Berry Cobb: suggested we measure whether any new gTLDs are blocked in any countries. Olivier Crepin Leblond: ALAC will discuss a charter and will attempt to keep it similar to GNSO Charter. Cheryl Langdon-Orr: let's do a public comment period on our draft Advice -- before sending the the AC/Sos Steve thanked Rosemary Sinclair, ICANN staff, and other WG members in the room. From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:14:30 +0000 To: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nathalie.peregrine@xxxxxxxxx>>, "gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx>" <gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx>> Subject: [gnso-consumercci-dt] CCI questions raised in Monday's session on Accountability and Transparency forum We got the chance to mention our work to GAC and Board members this morning at the Accountability & Transparency Forum <http://dakar42.icann.org/node/26849> here in Dakar. I brought it up when the panel discussed improvements in GAC – Board interactions on "Advice". The transcript's not available yet. Below is a note I sent to US GAC Rep Suzanne Radell when she asked me to follow-up with her and clarify my questions regarding the GAC. Rosemary — did Stefane send your draft letter to invite GAC participation? --Steve From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:59:12 -0400 To: Suzanne Radell <SRadell@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:SRadell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: my confusing question at Monday's ATRT session Suzanne -- I used an example to assess whether the ATRT improvements are actually improving communication with the GAC about advice sought. The example I used was Bruce Tonkin's resolution from Cartagena: Whereas, ICANN has committed to promoting competition, consumer trust and consumer choice in the Affirmation of Commitments Whereas, if and when new gTLDs (whether in ASCII or other language character sets) have been in operation for one year, ICANN has committed to organize a review that will examine the extent to which the introduction or expansion of gTLDs has promoted competition, consumer trust and consumer choice. Resolved (2010.12.10.30), the ICANN Board requests advice from the ALAC, GAC, GNSO and ccNSO on establishing the definition, measures, and three year targets for those measures, for competition, consumer trust and consumer choice in the context of the domain name system, such advice to be provided for discussion at the ICANN International Public meeting in San Francisco from 13-18 March 2011. Resolved, the ICANN Board requests advice from the ALAC, GAC, GNSO and ccNSO on establishing the definition, measures, and three year targets for those measures, for competition, consumer trust and consumer choice in the context of the domain name system. I'm in the cross-community WG<https://community.icann.org/display/CMG/3.++WG+Charter> developing definitions and metrics for GNSO, ccNSO and ALAC. We've made real progress, as seen in the attached powerpoint and these draft definitions (red text should be of particular interest to GAC): Consumer Trust refers to the confidence registrants and users can have in the consistency of name resolution (from registrar to registry), and the degree of confidence among registrants and users that a TLD registry operator is fulfilling its proposed purpose and is complying with ICANN policies and applicable national laws. Competition is evident in the quantity and diversity of gTLDs,TLD registry operators, and registrars. Consumer Choice is evident in the range of options available to registrants and users for domain scripts and languages, and for TLDs that offer choices as to the proposed purpose and integrity of their domain name registrants. 1. My first question today was to ask Bruce if the Board ever formally requested the GAC to provide this advice. Or, did he assume the GAC was reading and parsing every Board resolution for these kinds of things? Bruce didn't know, but he suspects the board did not make a formal request. 2. My second question was asking Manal if the GAC was developing advice for this topic. Naturally, we'd love to have GAC participate in the joint working group, but we understand that's unlikely. But we do want to be sure the GAC sees our work and invite your comments. We're presenting our work on Wednesday<http://dakar42.icann.org/node/26965> at 1pm if you can drop by. Hope that helps. -- Steve DelBianco Executive Director NetChoice http://www.NetChoice.org<http://www.NetChoice.org/> and http://blog.netchoice.org<http://blog.netchoice.org/> +1.202.420.7482 Attachment:
Dakar 10-22-2011 Transcript- Consumer Metrics.pdf Attachment:
cci presentation Dakar oct 2011v2.ppt
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