RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

["Berry Cobb" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Team,

 

Based on Jeff's comments below, I started to change the Registry Operator
number to 14 (as it should be).  However, Jeff also brings up an excellent
point with respect to Affiliated Registrars (290+) vs. Accredited Registrars
(1000).  To remain consistent, I'm asking the group's approval to keep the
Registry Operator number at 16 with the appropriate footnote since we do not
have a quick and definitive way to determine the Affiliated Registrar count.

 

If the WG has any objection, please respond to the list.

 

I will be sending out the final PDF this afternoon.  Thank you.  B

 

Berry Cobb

Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)

720.839.5735

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From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr [mailto:langdonorr@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 21:56
To: Neuman, Jeff
Cc: Berry Cobb; gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

 

Regardless of the "affiliated group use ( or not  {I'm happy either way} )
what we DO need to ensure is that the text properly and clearly outlines the
rationale for the choice  made...  language  from Jeff below in a footnote /
clarification point / Note etc.,etc., would be just fine for that purpose
IMO)  but we need to be clear what the definition is and why it is 18 in the
IANA dB and 14 listed  etc., etc.,)

 


Cheryl Langdon-Orr
(CLO)




On 22 February 2012 15:41, Neuman, Jeff <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Berry.  I think it depends on the purpose for which the data will be
used.  Technically in IANA, the information is correct as those may be the
legal institutions responsible for the spaces and they all could still be
separate legal entities.  But for this working group that is looking at
consumer and competition issues, I believe it should be considered in light
of affiliated entities. In other words, all registries in the same
"affiliated family" should be grouped together.  The same is probably true
for all affiliated registrars.

 

I hope that helps.

 

Jeffrey J. Neuman 
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs

 

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From: owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Berry Cobb
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

 

Jeff,

 

Thank you for catching this discrepancy.  The informal definition is what is
listed as the sponsoring organization listed in the IANA dB.  It makes no
mention of Afilias as the Sponsoring Org nor the Technical Contact.  In your
opinion, do you feel the information is out of date on IANA or is this
listed appropriately given they are wholly owned?  Oddly, I checked
http://www.afilias.info/global-registry-services/gtlds and their site
displays .mobi, but does not reflect .pro.  Either way, you are correct in
my opinion.  The number should be 14.

 

CCTC Team, from this point forward, I can maintain the master draft Advice
Letter for last minute updates.  Please let me know if you have objections
or feedback on the above.

 

Thank you.  B

 

Berry Cobb

Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)

720.839.5735

mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

@berrycobb

 

 

From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 18:51
To: Berry Cobb; gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

 

Berry,

 

What is your definition of "unique generic registry operators".  For
example, today, mTLD and Registry Services Corporation (RegistryPro) is
wholly owned by Afilias.  So, wouldn't the number be 14?

 

Thanks.

 

Jeffrey J. Neuman 
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs

 

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From: owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Berry Cobb
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:57 PM
To: gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Updated Stats

 

Team,

 

Here are the updated existing TLD counts.  Take note, on this run I omitted
the .gov, .mil and .int counts.  Let me know if you have questions.  Thank
you.

 

 

1.       Source IANA.org db (http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db):

a.       Quantity of total TLDs before and after expansion, assuming that
gTLDs and ccTLDs generally compete for the same registrants - 311

                                                               i.      326
TLDs delegated at the root

1.       293 Country Code (38 IDN)

2.       18 Generic (4 generic, 3 generic-restricted, 11 sponsored) (**omits
.gov, .mil, .int)

3.       12 others (1 infrastructure, 11 test **omitted)

b.      Quantity of gTLDs before and after expansion - 18

                                                               i.      18
Generic TLDs (4 generic, 3 generic-restricted, 11 sponsored) (**omits .gov,
.mil, .int)

                                                             ii.      AERO,
ASIA, BIZ, CAT, COM, COOP, EDU, INFO, JOBS, MOBI, MUSEUM, NAME, NET, ORG,
PRO, TEL, TRAVEL, XXX

c.       Quantity of unique Generic Registry Operators before and after
expansion - 16

                                                               i.
VeriSign Global Registry Services

                                                             ii.      Telnic
Ltd.

                                                            iii.
NeuStar, Inc.

                                                           iv.      mTLD Top
Level Domain Limited dba dotMobi

                                                             v.      DotAsia
Organisation Ltd.

                                                           vi.      Registry
Services Corporation dba RegistryPro

                                                          vii.
DotCooperation LLC

                                                        viii.      Afilias
Limited

                                                           ix.      EDUCAUSE

                                                             x.      Museum
Domain Management Association

                                                           xi.      Employ
Media LLC

                                                          xii.      Public
Interest Registry (PIR)

                                                        xiii.      Fundacio
puntCAT

                                                        xiv.      Societe
Internationale de Telecommunications Aeronautique (SITA INC USA)

                                                         xv.      Tralliance
Registry Management Company, LLC.

                                                        xvi.      ICM
Registry LLC

d.      Quantity of Generic Registry Service Providers before and after
expansion - 6

                                                               i.
VeriSign Global Registry Services

                                                             ii.
Afilias Limited

                                                            iii.
NeuStar, Inc.

                                                           iv.      CORE
Internet Council of Registrars

                                                             v.      Public
Interest Registry (PIR)

                                                           vi.
Midcounties Co-operative Domains Ltd

2.       Source ICANN Accredited Registrars List
(http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/accredited-list.html)

a.       Quantity of Registrars before and after expansion - 1000

                                                               i.
Within the pivot table, you will find a count of Rr by country

 

 

Berry Cobb

Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)

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