Re: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Next CTCCC Meeting

[Wendy Seltzer <wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 10/24/2012 05:30 AM, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
> Thanks Steve,
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> Understood.  We had Tim Ruiz on the group originally and, if possible, it
> would be good to have full buy-in at the WG stage before it goes back to the
> Council.

You still don't have NCSG buy-in, I'm afraid.  We remain concerned that
many measures of "trust" externalize enforcement costs of unique
restrictions onto the entire ICANN structure, forcing us all to pay for
compliance and monitoring costs of unique contracts that are never
assessed against their public benefits.

It's not free to allow an applicant to propose unique restrictions and
put ICANN compliance in charge of enforcing that the registry complies
with those. Rather, it digs both ICANN and the registry deep into domain
content and *use* issues, imposing new organizational costs and
distracting from core business.

I also object to measuring trust based upon un-verified complaints (of
spam, abuse, and UDRP), a heckler's veto allowing the loudest
complainers to give black marks to a TLD or the new gTLD program without
even looking to whether those complaints are justified.

--Wendy


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> Jonathan
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> From: owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco
> Sent: 23 October 2012 15:32
> To: Jonathan Robinson; 'Berry Cobb'; gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Next CTCCC Meeting
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> In Toronto, I spoke with Mason Cole about registrar concerns and questions.
> Mason said that the registrars shared the "closed gTLD" issues raised by
> Jeff Neuman, and mentioned no other concerns.
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> Hope that still holds.  Registrars welcome on the call, of course.
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> --Steve
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> From: Jonathan Robinson <jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:17 AM
> To: Berry Cobb <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx"
> <gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Next CTCCC Meeting
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> Turns out I responded to the Doodle Poll from Toronto and so got the times a
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> It's now 8-10 pm on Friday night for me.  L
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> Such is my dedication, I'll be there!  I'd really like to see a registrar on
> the call if possible.
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> Jonathan
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> From: owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Berry Cobb
> Sent: 15 October 2012 18:17
> To: gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Next CTCCC Meeting
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> Team,
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> Based on the Doodle poll, the best time for all to meet is Friday 26 October
> 2012 at 19:00 UTC.  Call logistics will be sent out in the next few days.
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> At this session we can confirm whether another meeting will be required or
> not.  However, Doodle shows 30 October 2012 at 20:00 UTC is the next best
> time to meet.
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> Let me know if you have any questions.  Thank you.  B
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> Berry Cobb
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> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
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