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RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Another meeting required?
- To: "Michael R. Graham" <mgraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Berry Cobb" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Another meeting required?
- From: <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:30:19 -0700
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font-size:10pt;"><div>another meeting is fine, Monday can work, but first I
want to see a redline of the advice letter reflecting Jeff's concerns so that
we might decide and produce a rationale.<br></div><div><br></div><div>John
Berard</div><div>Founder</div><div>Credible Context</div><div>58 West Portal
Avenue, #291</div><div>San Francisco, CA 94127</div><div>m:
415.845.4388</div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] Another meeting required?<br>
From: "Michael R. Graham" <<a
href="mailto:mgraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mgraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
Date: Fri, November 02, 2012 1:47 pm<br>
To: Berry Cobb <<a
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style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="color:#1F497D">Berry:<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks. I think we
need to (1) define and clarify Jeff’s concerns and objections, and (2) address
them specifically and either in writing or printed transcript. To
complete this I think we’d have to “meet” Monday. I would be available
Monday until 3pm Central Standard Time U.S. for a conference
call.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
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style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D">Michael
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0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Berry Cobb<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 02, 2012 2:44
PM<br> <b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-consumercci-dt] Another meeting
required?<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">Team,<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">Given the dialogue on the list, shall I schedule
another meeting for us to meet? If so, let me know and I can send out a
Doodle. Else, we have until November 7<sup>th</sup> to submit the Advice
Letter to the Council for consideration at the November 15<sup>th</sup>
meeting.<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">With respect to the metrics identified in the Advice
Letter, I’d like to remind everyone that one of the key messages in the advice
is that a future AoC Review Team will make the final decisions about what
metrics are used to conduct the review. From the letter:<o:p></o:p></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">“The Working Group understands that
the purpose of this advice is to provide the ICANN Board with definitions,
measures, and targets that could be useful to the Affirmation review team that
will convene one year after new gTLDs are launched. However, the Working
Group understands that this advice cannot pre-determine or otherwise limit the
scope of the future Affirmation review team. Additionally, this advice is
not intended to recommend policy changes or policy development needs.
“<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">I do not want to minimize the WG efforts in identifying
the proposed metrics, but in essence the proposed metrics at this point is just
a “starter list.” The future Review Team will finalize which metrics are
required to conduct the review across Consumer Trust, Consumer Choice, and
Competition. Further, the Review Team will spend a considerable amount of
time to not only identify which metrics are used, but the complete requirements
of each metric will have to be flushed out. The team will need to
research the source owner of the data, the systems required to collect the
data, how the metric will be presented, and the possible factors that may
influence its result in addition to cost considerations. As an example,
after seeing results of a particular Consumer Choice metric, the future Review
Team may in fact have to modify the scope of gTLD types being measured (e.g.
whether Brand TLDs influence the result or a defined target).<o:p></o:p></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">The bottom line, each of these
metrics (perhaps excluding surveys) will require a base source listing of each
TLD that is delegated. This base listing will contain TLD type (Brand,
Geographic, IDN, etc.) in addition to other meta-data. As the Review Team
analyzes certain metrics, they will have the option to poll the entire universe
of gTLDs/ccTLDs or specifically select a TLD type that best meets the final
requirements of the stated metric. Systems are being built now in support
of the gTLD program and as such will likely be the primary
source.<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">In close, there is a high probability that the future
Review Team will accept most if not all of the proposed metrics offered in the
advice. Regardless, it is not the mandate of this WG to create a
finalized list. Continued efforts to refine these metrics may likely not
return value given the larger tasks ahead of the future Review
Team.<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">ICANN Staff will be happy to assist the WG however it
wishes to proceed. <o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">I hope this is helpful to the
discussion.<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">Thank you. B<o:p></o:p></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Berry Cobb<o:p></o:p></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Internet Corporation for Assigned
Names & Numbers (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">720.839.5735<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><a target="_blank"
href="mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><o:p></o:p></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">@berrycobb<o:p></o:p></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div>
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