RE: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] WHOIS-Related Current and Completed Work

["Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Amr and colleagues,

I will pick up prioritization tomorrow when we discuss the questions and other 
possible working methodologies.

Thank you for summarizing the points you made in last week's call. I have made 
summaries of last week's discussions on questions 5-7 in the wiki, so that new 
members and others can get a good idea of what we're doing without listening to 
all the calls. Obviously I welcome improvements either on this list or in the 
wiki: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44960091

Regards,

Chris.
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Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, 
Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) 
ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon

From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
Sent: 21 February 2014 18:51
To: Amr Elsadr
Cc: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] WHOIS-Related Current and Completed Work

Hi Amr,

Thank you very much for the helpful clarification and the context for your 
comments/questions.  I agree that the WG may want to place the questions in 
some order of priority.

Best regards,
Julie

From: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Friday, February 21, 2014 12:27 PM
To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>>
Cc: 
"gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx>" 
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Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] WHOIS-Related Current and Completed Work

Hi Julie,

Thanks for laying this all out for us. It's quite helpful. Just in case I 
wasn't clear during the call, my comment/question was related to two of the 
questions this PDP has been chartered to answer and listed on a separate page 
on the WG 
wiki<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44960091>:

Q6. When would policy come into effect?

I imagine that the timelines involved in the concurrent projects will influence 
the answer to this question, of course also depending on what this WG 
recommends on how desirable or undesirable it is to translate and/or 
transliterate contact info. The EWG on gTLD Directory Services is wrapping up 
its work with the public comment period on their report nearing conclusion. I 
guess this means we can expect an issue report on this soon.

Q7. What should be mandatory?

Although I personally think it would have been helpful for this PDP to address 
what data elements in registrants' contact info should be translated, this is 
not a really relevant observation right now. It is clearly outside of our 
scope, and in answering this question, we need to focus on wether it should be 
mandatory to translate/transliterate contact info associated with all gTLDs as 
well as for all registrants in all countries.

Perhaps, in light of all the projects potentially influencing this PDP and 
their timelines, we should start discussing the order in which we would like to 
answer our charter questions. That is assuming we're settled on the actual 
questions. :)

Thanks.

Amr

On Feb 20, 2014, at 9:50 PM, Julie Hedlund 
<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:


Dear PDP WG members,

In response to the question from Amr today about whether there is WHOIS-related 
PDP (or other) work that may be addressing the same issues as the PDP WG please 
see below the list of current and recently completed work.  Staff have 
presented some of this information at various times in the formation of this 
PDP WG, and via presentations from Margie Milam and Steve Sheng at a previous 
meeting, but it appears that it would be helpful to put it all in one place to 
avoid any confusion.  One thing to note is that following the Board resolutions 
on WHOIS in November 2012 a large number of projects (both PDP and non-PDP) 
were launched and the Board envisioned that these would proceed concurrently, 
rather than consecutively.  See the helpful blog from Margie Milam on all of 
the WHOIS-related developments at: 
http://blog.icann.org/2013/03/whois-whats-to-come/.

As I noted on today's call, this PDP WG is the only PDP that addresses the 
specific issues relating to the translation and transliteration of contact 
information.  The work of this PDP WG will be taken into consideration in 
conjunction with the Board-initiated PDP on gTLD directory services, which is 
tied to the work of the Expert Working Group on gTLD Directory Services (see 
below).  The final report of the EWG will form the Final Issue Report for that 
Board-initiated PDP.

The Expert Working Group that is defining requirements for internationalized 
registration data and a corresponding data model for gTLD registries (#3 below) 
is the group that Jim Galvin is leading.  The work of that group is tied 
closely to that of this PDP WG.  Both relate to item #13 in the chart in 
Margie's blog, which is taken from the Board's work plan.  That plan states, 
"ICANN will form a community working group to determine appropriate 
internationalized domain name registration data requirements based on 
requirements set forth in GNSO internationalized registration data working 
Group final Report."  The work this PDP WG will be considered by this EWG so 
the two groups will coordinate closely.

I have added this information to the studies and background page on the wiki 
at: 
https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/7.+Studies+and+Background+Documents.
  For a list of active GNSO PDP and non-PDP projects see: 
http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active.

As you can see, these efforts are very much intertwined.  Policies resulting 
from this PDP WG (if any) will be key elements in future policies relating to 
the development of a new gTLD directory service, in defining requirements for 
internationalized registration data, and in the development of the data model 
for gTLD registries.

Please let me know if you have further questions.

Best regards,
Julie

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

Recently Completed Work:

PDP on Thick WHOIS: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active/thick-whois

The GNSO Council requested an Issue Report on 'thick' Whois at its meeting on 
22 September 2011 noting that the Issue Report should 'not only consider a 
possible requirement of 'thick' WHOIS for all incumbent gTLDs in the context of 
IRTP, but should also consider any other positive and/or negative effects that 
are likely to occur outside of IRTP that would need to be taken into account 
when deciding whether a requirement of 'thick' WHOIS for all incumbent gTLDs 
would be desirable or not'.

The Final Report was adopted by the ICANN Board on 07 February 2014. See the 
resolution at: 
http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-07feb14-en.htm#2.c.

Current Work:

1. Study Group to Evaluate Available Solutions for the Submission and Display 
of Internationalized Contact Data.
See: 
https://community.icann.org/display/whoisird/Study+to+Evaluate+Available+Solutions+for+the+Submission+and+Display+of+Internationalized+Contact+Data

The purpose of the study is to:

  1.  Document the submission and display practices of internationalized 
registration data at a representative set of gTLD and ccTLD registries and 
registrars.
  2.  Investigate and document how other e-merchants or web sites manage 
internationalized contact data.
  3.  Consider and assess the cost and functionality of commercial, open 
source, or other known but as yet not widely implemented solutions for 1) 
transliterating internationalized contact information to US-ASCII, 2) 
translating internationalized contact information to English,  3) transcribing 
internationalized contact information to US-ASCII, or 4) a mixture of 
translation, transliteration and transcription.
  4.  Consider and assess the accuracy implications for transliteration and 
translation of the internationalized contact data
  5.  Based on practices documented in 1  and understanding the issues raised 
in 3 and 4  and best practices by other e-merchants in 2, summarize some common 
best practices registry/registrar could do to minimize these variations, if 
translation and/or transliteration is deemed necessary.
    The study team is currently on the first task, and has prepared a registry 
and registrar survey to complete. Since this group is closely working in this 
area, we appreciate very much if you have any feedback on these survey 
questions. Such feedback will help us to make sure we ask the right questions.


2.  Expert Working Group on gTLD Directory Services, See: 
http://www.icann.org/en/groups/other/gtld-directory-services

13 December 2012 - Fadi Chehadé, ICANN's President and CEO, announces the 
creation of an Expert Working Group on gTLD Directory Services. This first step 
in fulfilling the ICANN Board's directive to help redefine the purpose and 
provision of gTLD registration data will provide a foundation to help the ICANN 
community (through the Generic Names Supporting Organization, GNSO) create a 
new global policy for gTLD directory services. Interested individuals are 
invited to indicate their interest in serving as volunteer working group 
members.
Initial Report: 
http://www.icann.org/en/groups/other/gtld-directory-services/initial-report-24jun13-en.pdf
Status Update Report: 
http://www.icann.org/en/groups/other/gtld-directory-services/status-update-11nov13-en.pdf
See the Preliminary Issue Report of the Board-initiated PDP at: 
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/gtld-registration-data-15mar13-en.htm.

3.  Expert Working Group to Define Requirements for Internationalized 
Registration Data and Corresponding Data Model for gTLD Registries
See: http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-08jul13-en.htm.

As part of the process to implement WHOIS review team recommendations related 
to Internationalized Domain Name registration data requirements, ICANN seeks 
volunteers who are community representatives with expertise in linguistics, 
IDNA, policy and registry/registrar operations to participate in a working 
group to determine appropriate Internationalized Domain Name registration data 
requirements and data model for Registration Data Directory Services (aka WHOIS 
services).  The result of the WG product will go through a public comment 
process to ensure broad input is received. It will form the basis for further 
policy development and/or contractual framework for generic Top-level domains, 
as well as ideally becoming  a best practice for country code top-level domains.