Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft initial report

["Petter Rindforth" <petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Emily,<div><br /></div><div>As said: There is no conses in the group in 
these topics. That's what I wanted to have more clearly 
indicated.</div><div><br /></div><div>Best,</div><div>Petter<br /><br />-- <br 
/>Petter Rindforth, LL M
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<br />Thank you<br /><br /><p>30 september 2014, Emily Taylor 
&lt;emily.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt; skrev:</p><blockquote type="cite"><div 
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class="oneComWebmail-body"><div dir="ltr">Dear Petter<div><br 
/></div><div>Thank you for marking up and circulating your comments on the 
draft paper.</div><div><br /></div><div>I note that you have deleted the word 
"not" from draft recommendation #1, which reverses its meaning. This would have 
the effect of making transformation of contact data mandatory, which has not 
been the consensus in the working group as far as I am aware.  </div><div><br 
/></div><div>I'm also not sure of the basis for the proposed change "the main 
part of the stakeholders" in favour of mandatory transformation.  I thought the 
previous text which acknowledged that "some" are in favour, was a fairer 
representation of opinions on the working group.</div><div><br /></div><div>The 
recommendation #5 now imposes costs of transformation on registries and 
registrars.  Again, I do not see this as reflecting the consensus in 
group.</div><div><br /></div><div>You have also removed the important text 
(page 4, para 3, that the costs of transformation are likely to outweigh the 
benefits.  This is particularly important as the paper has rehearsed the 
complexity of transliteration/translation of proper names and address 
data.</div><div><br /></div><div>I will be circulating your draft to the 
Registrar stakeholder group for comments, but wanted to give an immediate heads 
up that the changes proposed in your version circulated on 29 September are 
controversial, unlikely to be acceptable to industry colleagues, and are likely 
to upset the consensus in the policy working group.</div><div><br 
/></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div><br /><br />Emily.  </div></div><div 
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class="oneComWebmail-gmail_quote">On 30 September 2014 08:00, Lars Hoffmann 
<span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lars.hoffmann@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">lars.hoffmann@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br /><blockquote 
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#ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div><font 
face="Calibri,sans-serif">Dear Petter,</font></div><div><font 
face="Calibri,sans-serif">Thank you very much for your amendments - very good 
to see some activity on the list. Alas, as you might recall, we are working on 
a Draft Initial Report that we thought to send out to the Group today – I  hope 
to re–edit the document based on your submission as soon as possible, still, 
it might somewhat delay the Draft Report’s completion and distribution for 
review.</font></div><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Many thanks and best 
wishes,</font></div><div><font 
face="Calibri,sans-serif">Lars</font></div><div><font 
face="Calibri,sans-serif"> </font></div><div style="color: rgb(0,0,0); 
font-size: 14px;"><br /></div><span style="color: rgb(0,0,0); font-size: 
14px;"><div style="font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; color: black; 
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BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt;"><span style="font-weight: 
bold;">From: </span> Petter Rindforth &lt;<a 
href="mailto:petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br /><span 
style="font-weight: bold;">Reply-To: </span> "<a 
href="mailto:petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br /><span 
style="font-weight: bold;">Date: </span> Monday, 29 September 2014 22:53<br 
/><span style="font-weight: bold;">To: </span> "Dillon, Chris" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx"; target="_blank">c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br 
/><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc: </span> "<a 
href="mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx</a>" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br /><span 
style="font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span> Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft 
initial report<br /></div><div><div class="oneComWebmail-h5"><div><br 
/></div><div><div>
Dear All,
<div><br /></div><div>I have made some "minor" changes, based on the initial 
IPC comments (see enclosed).</div><div><br 
/></div><div>Best,</div><div>Petter<br /><br />
-- <br />
Petter Rindforth, LL M <br /><br />
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Thank you<br /><br /><p>12 september 2014, Dillon, Chris &lt;<a 
href="mailto:c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx"; target="_blank">c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; 
skrev:</p><blockquote><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><p><span>Dear 
colleagues,</span></p><p><span> </span></p><p><span>Just to confirm that it was 
decided to start work on turning the straw man (latest version attached) into a 
draft initial report, the first version of which, it is hoped, will be 
presented during our call on
 25 Sept.</span></p><p><span> </span></p><p><span>In the meantime, please 
submit any suggestions or corrections to the list. Speaking of corrections, 
note that there is rather a confusing typo in paragraph 1 of Appendix B:
<i>registrar</i> should read 
<i>registrant</i>.</span></p><p><span> </span></p><p><span>Regards,</span></p><p><span> </span></p><p><span>Chris.</span></p><div><p><span>--</span></p><p><span>Research
 Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower 
St, London WC1E 6BT Tel <a href="tel:%2B44%2020%207679%201599" 
target="_blank">+44 20 7679 1599</a> (int 31599)
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 style="border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 
0cm;"><p><b><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;"> <a 
href="mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx</a> [<a 
href="mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathalie Peregrine<br /><b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2014 
21:44<br /><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx</a><br /><b>Cc:</b> <a 
href="mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx"; target="_blank">gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx</a><br 
/><b>Subject:</b> [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] MP3 Translation and Transliteration 
of Contact Information PDP WG meeting - 11 September 
2014</span></p></div></div><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: 
black;">Dear All,</span></p><div><div><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"><br />
Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of 
Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 11 September 
at 1300 UTC at:<span style="color: #1f497d;"><br /></span><a 
href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20140911-en.mp3"; 
target="_blank">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20140911-en.mp3</a><span
 style="color: #1f497d;"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; 
color: black;">On page: </span></p></div></div><div><p style="margin-bottom: 
12.0pt;"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep"; 
target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#</span>sep</a><span 
style="color: #1f497d;"></span></p></div><div><div><div><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: black;">The recordings and transcriptions of 
the calls are posted on the GNSO</span></p></div><div><p><span lang="FR" 
style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: black;">Master Calendar 
page:</span></p></div><div><p><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"; 
target="_blank"><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: 
windowtext;">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a><span lang="FR" 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;"></span></p></div><div><p><span lang="FR" 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;"> </span></p></div><div><p><u><span lang="FR" 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Attendees:</span></u></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">Chris Dillon – NCSG</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">Ubolthip Sethakaset – Individual</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">Peter Dernbach- IPC</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; 
color: #333333; background: white;">Pitinan 
Kooarmornpatana-GAC</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Peter Green 
(</span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; background: white;">Zhang 
Zuan)</span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">-NCUC</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Justine Chew-<span style="background: white;"> 
Individual</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Rudi Vansnick – 
NPOC
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Lindsay Hamilton Reid – 
RrSG</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Jennifer Chung – 
RySG</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Wen Zhai - 
NTAG</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: 
#1f497d;"> </span></p><p><u><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Apologies:
<span style="color: #1f497d;"></span></span></u></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">Petter Rindforth – IPC</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">Jim Galvin – SSAC</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Emily 
Taylor - RrSG</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p><u><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt; color: black;">ICANN staff:</span></u></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt; background: white;">Julie Hedlund
</span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">Lars Hoffmann</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Amy 
Bivins</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Glen de Saint 
Gery</span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">Nathalie Peregrine</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: 
black;"> </span></p></div><div><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: 
black;">** Please let me know if your name has been le</span><span lang="FR" 
style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: black;">ft off the list 
**</span></p></div><div><p><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: 
#1f497d;"> </span></p></div><div><p><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.0pt; 
color: black;"> Wiki page:</span><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.0pt; 
color: #1f497d;"></span><a href="http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx"; 
target="_blank"><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx</span></a><b><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;"></span></b><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: 
#1f497d;"></span></p></div><div><p><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.0pt; 
color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 
11.0pt; color: black;">Thank you.</span></p></div><div><p><span lang="FR" 
style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: black;">Kind regards,</span></p><p><span 
lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: 
#1f497d;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p><span lang="FR" 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Nathalie</span></p><p><span lang="FR" 
style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: black;">GNSO Secretariat
</span></p><p><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 
11.0pt;"> </span></p></div><div><p><u><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Adobe 
Chat Transcript for <b>Thursday 11 September 2014:</b></span></u></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;"> Nathalie  Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the 
Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working group call 
on the 11th September 2014</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  
Jennifer Chung:Hello Nathalie and Julie!</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">  Nathalie  Peregrine:Hello Jennifer!</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Jennifer Chung:It looks a bit thin on the numbers 
right now?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Chris Dillon:Hello 
all</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Jennifer Chung:Hello 
Chris</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Rudi Vansnick:hello 
everyone
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Julie Hedlund:@Chris: I've 
made you a host so you can move the document on the screen.</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Chris Dillon:Thanks</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Peter Dernbach:Hell all.</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Peter Dernbach:Hello all.</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Wen Zhai:Good evening~</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Chris Dillon:Good afternoon!</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Wen Zhai::)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">  Nathalie  Peregrine:noted! for Emily Taylor</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Justine Chew:@Chris: Yes, happy with your 
suggestion</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Lindsay 
Hamilton-Reid:Apologies for being late.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">  Rudi Vansnick:are there any suggestions to add to the present 
document ?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Peter Dernbach:In 
Appendix B you refer to "registrars" but I think you mean 
"registrants".</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Peter 
Dernbach:"easier to contact registrars"</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 
11.0pt;">  Rudi Vansnick:yes should be registrants in fact</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Rudi Vansnick:end of paragraph 
1</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Peter Dernbach:and end of 
paragraph 2</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Rudi Vansnick:could 
be both also !</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Justine Chew:yes 
could be both</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Justine 
Chew:@Rudi: +1</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Justine 
Chew:Since we are making recommendations, perhaps mention it and qualify if it 
is not within the WG scope?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  
Rudi Vansnick:thank you all</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  
Jennifer Chung:Thank you Chris, thanks all.</span></p><p><span 
style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:thanks 
all</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Julie Hedlund:Thank you 
everyone!</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Chris Dillon:Thank 
you.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">  Chris Dillon:We have some 
busy weeks coming up!</span></p><p><b><u><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: 
#1f497d;"><span style="text-decoration: 
none;"> </span></span></u></b></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></span></div>
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