RE: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft initial report

["Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Emily,

I’m really grateful for both your and Petter’s input. At this stage the key 
thing is to make sure that it is all reflected in the initial draft document 
which contains options, which the straw man didn’t.

Regards,

Chris.
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From: Emily Taylor [mailto:emily.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 30 September 2014 09:57
To: Dillon, Chris
Cc: Lars Hoffmann; petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft initial report

Dear Chris

Thanks for your message.  I have no wish to break the editing / release cycle.  
I did, however, want to make it very clear as early as possible that the latest 
proposed edits are controversial, and do not have consensus (at least not from 
this quarter!).

Best wishes, and thanks as always for your work in guiding this process,

Emily

On 30 September 2014 09:50, Dillon, Chris 
<c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Dear Emily,

We’re hoping we’re only hours away from releasing a draft initial report which 
will include options mandatorily to transform and not. Please wait for that 
document which should include Petter’s suggestions, rather than circulating 
another version of the straw man.

Regards,

Chris.
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From: Emily Taylor 
[mailto:emily.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:emily.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
Sent: 30 September 2014 09:44
To: Lars Hoffmann
Cc: petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
Dillon, Chris; 
gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft initial report

Dear Petter

Thank you for marking up and circulating your comments on the draft paper.

I note that you have deleted the word "not" from draft recommendation #1, which 
reverses its meaning. This would have the effect of making transformation of 
contact data mandatory, which has not been the consensus in the working group 
as far as I am aware.

I'm also not sure of the basis for the proposed change "the main part of the 
stakeholders" in favour of mandatory transformation.  I thought the previous 
text which acknowledged that "some" are in favour, was a fairer representation 
of opinions on the working group.

The recommendation #5 now imposes costs of transformation on registries and 
registrars.  Again, I do not see this as reflecting the consensus in group.

You have also removed the important text (page 4, para 3, that the costs of 
transformation are likely to outweigh the benefits.  This is particularly 
important as the paper has rehearsed the complexity of 
transliteration/translation of proper names and address data.

I will be circulating your draft to the Registrar stakeholder group for 
comments, but wanted to give an immediate heads up that the changes proposed in 
your version circulated on 29 September are controversial, unlikely to be 
acceptable to industry colleagues, and are likely to upset the consensus in the 
policy working group.

Best wishes,


Emily.

On 30 September 2014 08:00, Lars Hoffmann 
<lars.hoffmann@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:lars.hoffmann@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Dear Petter,
Thank you very much for your amendments - very good to see some activity on the 
list. Alas, as you might recall, we are working on a Draft Initial Report that 
we thought to send out to the Group today – I  hope to re–edit the document 
based on your submission as soon as possible, still, it might somewhat delay 
the Draft Report’s completion and distribution for review.
Many thanks and best wishes,
Lars


From: Petter Rindforth 
<petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Reply-To: 
"petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" 
<petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Monday, 29 September 2014 22:53
To: "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx>>
Cc: 
"gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx>" 
<gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft initial report

Dear All,

I have made some "minor" changes, based on the initial IPC comments (see 
enclosed).

Best,
Petter

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12 september 2014, Dillon, Chris 
<c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx>> skrev:

Dear colleagues,



Just to confirm that it was decided to start work on turning the straw man 
(latest version attached) into a draft initial report, the first version of 
which, it is hoped, will be presented during our call on 25 Sept.



In the meantime, please submit any suggestions or corrections to the list. 
Speaking of corrections, note that there is rather a confusing typo in 
paragraph 1 of Appendix B: registrar should read registrant.



Regards,



Chris.

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From: 
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 [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nathalie 
Peregrine
Sent: 11 September 2014 21:44
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Cc: gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] MP3 Translation and Transliteration of 
Contact Information PDP WG meeting - 11 September 2014



Dear All,

Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of 
Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 11 September at 
1300 UTC at:
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20140911-en.mp3



On page:

http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO

Master Calendar page:

http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/



Attendees:

Chris Dillon – NCSG

Ubolthip Sethakaset – Individual

Peter Dernbach- IPC

Pitinan Kooarmornpatana-GAC

Peter Green (Zhang Zuan)-NCUC

Justine Chew- Individual

Rudi Vansnick – NPOC

Lindsay Hamilton Reid – RrSG

Jennifer Chung – RySG

Wen Zhai - NTAG



Apologies:

Petter Rindforth – IPC

Jim Galvin – SSAC

Emily Taylor - RrSG



ICANN staff:

Julie Hedlund

Lars Hoffmann

Amy Bivins

Glen de Saint Gery

Nathalie Peregrine



** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **



 Wiki page:http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx



Thank you.

Kind regards,



Nathalie

GNSO Secretariat



Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 11 September 2014:

 Nathalie  Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the Translation and Transliteration 
of Contact Information PDP Working group call on the 11th September 2014

  Jennifer Chung:Hello Nathalie and Julie!

  Nathalie  Peregrine:Hello Jennifer!

  Jennifer Chung:It looks a bit thin on the numbers right now?

  Chris Dillon:Hello all

  Jennifer Chung:Hello Chris

  Rudi Vansnick:hello everyone

  Julie Hedlund:@Chris: I've made you a host so you can move the document on 
the screen.

  Chris Dillon:Thanks

  Peter Dernbach:Hell all.

  Peter Dernbach:Hello all.

  Wen Zhai:Good evening~

  Chris Dillon:Good afternoon!

  Wen Zhai::)

  Nathalie  Peregrine:noted! for Emily Taylor

  Justine Chew:@Chris: Yes, happy with your suggestion

  Lindsay Hamilton-Reid:Apologies for being late.

  Rudi Vansnick:are there any suggestions to add to the present document ?

  Peter Dernbach:In Appendix B you refer to "registrars" but I think you mean 
"registrants".

  Peter Dernbach:"easier to contact registrars"

  Rudi Vansnick:yes should be registrants in fact

  Rudi Vansnick:end of paragraph 1

  Peter Dernbach:and end of paragraph 2

  Rudi Vansnick:could be both also !

  Justine Chew:yes could be both

  Justine Chew:@Rudi: +1

  Justine Chew:Since we are making recommendations, perhaps mention it and 
qualify if it is not within the WG scope?

  Rudi Vansnick:thank you all

  Jennifer Chung:Thank you Chris, thanks all.

  Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:thanks all

  Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone!

  Chris Dillon:Thank you.

  Chris Dillon:We have some busy weeks coming up!





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