Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft initial report

[Emily Taylor <emily.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Chris

Thanks for your message.  I have no wish to break the editing / release
cycle.  I did, however, want to make it very clear as early as possible
that the latest proposed edits are controversial, and do not have consensus
(at least not from this quarter!).

Best wishes, and thanks as always for your work in guiding this process,

Emily

On 30 September 2014 09:50, Dillon, Chris <c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Dear Emily,
>
>
>
> We’re hoping we’re only hours away from releasing a draft initial report
> which will include options mandatorily to transform and not. Please wait
> for that document which should include Petter’s suggestions, rather than
> circulating another version of the straw man.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Chris.
>
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> *From:* Emily Taylor [mailto:emily.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* 30 September 2014 09:44
> *To:* Lars Hoffmann
> *Cc:* petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Dillon, Chris;
> gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx
>
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft initial report
>
>
>
> Dear Petter
>
>
>
> Thank you for marking up and circulating your comments on the draft paper.
>
>
>
> I note that you have deleted the word "not" from draft recommendation #1,
> which reverses its meaning. This would have the effect of making
> transformation of contact data mandatory, which has not been the consensus
> in the working group as far as I am aware.
>
>
>
> I'm also not sure of the basis for the proposed change "the main part of
> the stakeholders" in favour of mandatory transformation.  I thought the
> previous text which acknowledged that "some" are in favour, was a fairer
> representation of opinions on the working group.
>
>
>
> The recommendation #5 now imposes costs of transformation on registries
> and registrars.  Again, I do not see this as reflecting the consensus in
> group.
>
>
>
> You have also removed the important text (page 4, para 3, that the costs
> of transformation are likely to outweigh the benefits.  This is
> particularly important as the paper has rehearsed the complexity of
> transliteration/translation of proper names and address data.
>
>
>
> I will be circulating your draft to the Registrar stakeholder group for
> comments, but wanted to give an immediate heads up that the changes
> proposed in your version circulated on 29 September are controversial,
> unlikely to be acceptable to industry colleagues, and are likely to upset
> the consensus in the policy working group.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
>
> Emily.
>
>
>
> On 30 September 2014 08:00, Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Dear Petter,
>
> Thank you very much for your amendments - very good to see some activity
> on the list. Alas, as you might recall, we are working on a Draft
> Initial Report that we thought to send out to the Group today – I  hope to
> re–edit the document based on your submission as soon as possible, still,
> it might somewhat delay the Draft Report’s completion and distribution for
> review.
>
> Many thanks and best wishes,
>
> Lars
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Petter Rindforth <petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Reply-To: *"petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <
> petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Date: *Monday, 29 September 2014 22:53
> *To: *"Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Cc: *"gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx" <
> gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft initial report
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I have made some "minor" changes, based on the initial IPC comments (see
> enclosed).
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Petter
>
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> 12 september 2014, Dillon, Chris <c.dillon@xxxxxxxxx> skrev:
>
>   Dear colleagues,
>
>
>
> Just to confirm that it was decided to start work on turning the straw man
> (latest version attached) into a draft initial report, the first version of
> which, it is hoped, will be presented during our call on 25 Sept.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, please submit any suggestions or corrections to the list.
> Speaking of corrections, note that there is rather a confusing typo in
> paragraph 1 of Appendix B: *registrar* should read *registrant*.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Chris.
>
> --
>
> Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities,
> UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)
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> *From:* owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx
> <owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Nathalie
> Peregrine
> *Sent:* 11 September 2014 21:44
> *To:* gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx
> *Cc:* gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] MP3 Translation and Transliteration
> of Contact Information PDP WG meeting - 11 September 2014
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
> Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of
> Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 11 September
> at 1300 UTC at:
> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20140911-en.mp3
>
>
>
> On page:
>
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep
>
> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO
>
> Master Calendar page:
>
> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/
>
>
>
> *Attendees:*
>
> Chris Dillon – NCSG
>
> Ubolthip Sethakaset – Individual
>
> Peter Dernbach- IPC
>
> Pitinan Kooarmornpatana-GAC
>
> Peter Green (Zhang Zuan)-NCUC
>
> Justine Chew- Individual
>
> Rudi Vansnick – NPOC
>
> Lindsay Hamilton Reid – RrSG
>
> Jennifer Chung – RySG
>
> Wen Zhai - NTAG
>
>
>
> *Apologies: *
>
> Petter Rindforth – IPC
>
> Jim Galvin – SSAC
>
> Emily Taylor - RrSG
>
>
>
> *ICANN staff:*
>
> Julie Hedlund
>
> Lars Hoffmann
>
> Amy Bivins
>
> Glen de Saint Gery
>
> Nathalie Peregrine
>
>
>
> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
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>
>
>  Wiki page:http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx
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>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Nathalie
>
> GNSO Secretariat
>
>
>
> *Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 11 September 2014:*
>
>  Nathalie  Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the Translation and
> Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working group call on the 11th
> September 2014
>
>   Jennifer Chung:Hello Nathalie and Julie!
>
>   Nathalie  Peregrine:Hello Jennifer!
>
>   Jennifer Chung:It looks a bit thin on the numbers right now?
>
>   Chris Dillon:Hello all
>
>   Jennifer Chung:Hello Chris
>
>   Rudi Vansnick:hello everyone
>
>   Julie Hedlund:@Chris: I've made you a host so you can move the document
> on the screen.
>
>   Chris Dillon:Thanks
>
>   Peter Dernbach:Hell all.
>
>   Peter Dernbach:Hello all.
>
>   Wen Zhai:Good evening~
>
>   Chris Dillon:Good afternoon!
>
>   Wen Zhai::)
>
>   Nathalie  Peregrine:noted! for Emily Taylor
>
>   Justine Chew:@Chris: Yes, happy with your suggestion
>
>   Lindsay Hamilton-Reid:Apologies for being late.
>
>   Rudi Vansnick:are there any suggestions to add to the present document ?
>
>   Peter Dernbach:In Appendix B you refer to "registrars" but I think you
> mean "registrants".
>
>   Peter Dernbach:"easier to contact registrars"
>
>   Rudi Vansnick:yes should be registrants in fact
>
>   Rudi Vansnick:end of paragraph 1
>
>   Peter Dernbach:and end of paragraph 2
>
>   Rudi Vansnick:could be both also !
>
>   Justine Chew:yes could be both
>
>   Justine Chew:@Rudi: +1
>
>   Justine Chew:Since we are making recommendations, perhaps mention it and
> qualify if it is not within the WG scope?
>
>   Rudi Vansnick:thank you all
>
>   Jennifer Chung:Thank you Chris, thanks all.
>
>   Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:thanks all
>
>   Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone!
>
>   Chris Dillon:Thank you.
>
>   Chris Dillon:We have some busy weeks coming up!
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