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Re: [gnso-dow123] Agenda for Tomorrow

  • To: "Jordyn A. Buchanan" <jordyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-dow123] Agenda for Tomorrow
  • From: Thomas Keller <tom@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:46:26 +0200

Hello all,

I just read Marias report (well big junks of it) and have to ask 
myself what exactly we want to vote on today. In prior taskforce 
reports the report always revolved about specific recommendations 
to specific problems which result into a specific impact for the 
constituencies of the GNSO. In this case however the report composes
an overview over what has happend over the last years in regard
to whois. That of course is not the fault of the drafter (thanks
to Maria for doing this work) but a result of the inability of the 
taskforce members to produce any kind of viable recommendations.
Thinking about the controversial views on this matter this does
not come in suprise but still leaves me wondering what I should
be raising my hand for on todays call? Is it about the correctness
of the report or about something else and what is the council
supposed to do with it once we have voted on it?

Best,

tom

Am 28.03.2005 schrieb Jordyn A. Buchanan:
> Ross:
> 
> The original intent was to discuss the report with an eye towards 
> completing the requirements of the PDP for the creation of a 
> "preliminary report", which we spent some time discussing on the last 
> call.  (Unfortunately, I'm in e-mail only mode right now, so I can't 
> pull up the relevant language, but there is a requirement for a meeting 
> within 5 days of the publication of the preliminary report in order to 
> try to resolve any substantive disagreements or something like that.)
> 
> However, as we've not yet seen the report and we're less than 24 hours 
> away from the meeting, I'm somewhat inclined to take Milton's advice 
> and defer the meeting.  However, that leaves us in a bit of a bind as 
> I'm fairly confident that Maria will succeed in
> "publishing" the report in the near future, and it will be difficult to 
> schedule a formal meeting of the TF until the week after next, given 
> that many of us will be traveling to Mar Del Plata (and some of us 
> won't, as well).  To that end, we'd probably need to advise the council 
> of another deviation from the PDP, but that we would expect to make the 
> report available for its public comment period shortly after Mar Del 
> Plata.
> 
> Jordyn
> 
> On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Ross Rader wrote:
> 
> >At this stage, I'm less interested in the actual contents of the 
> >document than I am in understanding what the goal of the "discussion 
> >of the report" is.
> >
> >Without a clear sense of what "the discussion" is going to be about, 
> >I'm not inclined to even read the document.
> >
> >Put another way, this document can be evaluated in any number of ways. 
> >The agenda doesn't make it clear what outcome we expect from tomorrow. 
> >I'd hate to be reading this with an eye for typo's and bad formatting 
> >if I should be looking at it with an eye for statements I agree and 
> >disagree with.
> >
> >The task force seems to be proceeding on the notion that the scope of 
> >work is well understood while forgetting that we have recently merged 
> >three different task forces thus creating an environment where it is 
> >extremely easy to misjudge the actual scope and intent of the 
> >conversation.
> >
> >I'd really appreciate some clarification on the agenda for tomorrow to 
> >make sure that I can allocate sufficient time to understand the level 
> >of detail necessary to have an informed discussion on tomorrow's call.
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Maria Farrell wrote:
> >>Hi Milton,
> >>Working on it - it really is a behemoth, but I should circulate 
> >>within the
> >>next hour or so. Cheers, Maria
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx 
> >>[mailto:owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx] On
> >>Behalf Of Milton Mueller
> >>Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:00 AM
> >>To: gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ross@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: Re: [gnso-dow123] Agenda for Tomorrow
> >>Yes, I share Ross's need for an update. I would very much hope and
> >>expect the preliminary report to be sent to us today sometime, so we 
> >>can
> >>read it before the call. If not, perhaps the call should be deferred.
> >>Dr. Milton Mueller
> >>Syracuse University School of Information Studies
> >>http://www.digital-convergence.org
> >>http://www.internetgovernance.org
> >>>>>Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx> 3/28/2005 10:44:14 AM >>>
> >>Apologies for missing last weeks call. In an effort to get caught up 
> >>in
> >>time for tomorrow's call, I was hoping that someone could update me on
> >>the agenda for tomorrow? The current agenda, which I suspect is out of
> >>date, is only this:
> >>Subject: Whois task Force 123
> >>Comments/Agenda: Discuss the Preliminary Report to be sent to the
> >>list.
> >>Much thanks in advance,
> >
> >
> >-- 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                      -rwr
> >
> >
> >
> >Contact info: http://www.blogware.com/profiles/ross
> >Skydasher: A great way to start your day
> >My weblog: http://www.byte.org
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 

Gruss,

tom

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