RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Domain Tasting ad hoc group - Action points from call 8 August

["Mike Rodenbaugh" <mxr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I disagree with these new questions 11 and 12, because the changes are 
substantial and the new version of 12 does not really make sense unless 
answered by a registrar or registry.  For both, I think we do want to consider 
whether registrars should be allowed to offer registrations for free, or what 
limits there ought to be on that, though we don't need to mention registrars by 
name.

I would agree to change these so not mentioning registries or registrars:

11.  If domain registrations were offered at no cost to the registrant, would 
this effectively permit domain tasting?  

12.  Should ICANN prohibit domain registrations at no cost to the registrant?

Jothan would that be acceptable for Registrars?  Any other comments?



Mike Rodenbaugh

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Olof Nordling
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 2:19 AM
To: 'Jothan Frakes'; gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Domain Tasting ad hoc group - Action points from call 
8 August

Jothan and all,
In line with the call yesterday, I've incorporated Jothan's suggestions
regarding Q11, Q12 and FAQ12 (I take it from Jothan's mail below that FAQ11
remains unchanged) in the attached version 2.4. I've also added the option
to respond via BigPulse. Unless vehement opposition arises, this is the
version to be posted.
Vewry best regards
Olof

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jothan Frakes
Sent: den 9 augusti 2007 09:23
To: gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Domain Tasting ad hoc group - Action points from
call 8 August

Hi-

These are the changes suggested for questions 11 and 12.

I appreciate the opportunity to have time to gather response from within the
Registrar constituency on questions 11 and 12 of the RFI, and here are some
suggested revisions that allow the essence of the question to remain.


Questions 11 & 12 suggested replacement verbiage, with like revisions for
the FAQ:

RFI
Question 11.    (current)
If registries or registrars offered domain registrations at no cost to the
registrant, would this effectively permit domain tasting?  

Question 11.    (suggested)
If domain registrations are offered at no cost to the registrant by a
registry (outside of special promotions), would this effectively permit
domain tasting?  

Question 12.    (current)
Should registries and registrars be prohibited from offering domain
registrations at no cost to the registrant?  

Question 12.    (suggested)
Are you opposed to offering domain registrations at no cost to the
registrant?  


FAQ
Question 11.   (current)
If a registry were to offer a domain registration at no cost, in essence a
free domain, is this identical to domain tasting?

Question 12:   (current)
This question is somewhat self explanatory, but there is an opportunity to
indicate if you would prefer that there be a fee for registration, either at
the registry level or at the registrar level for domain name registration.
 
Question 12: (suggested)
This question is somewhat self explanatory, but there is an opportunity to
indicate if you would prefer that there be a fee for domain name
registration.


-Jothan

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Olof Nordling
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:49 AM
To: gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gnso-dt-wg] Domain Tasting ad hoc group - Action points from call
8 August

Dear all,
Please find draft action items from today's call below.
Best regards
Olof

------------------- 
Action points, conference call 1 August 2007

1. The RFI version 2.3 was cleared for posting with the caveats that:
a) registrars, via Jothan F, have until COB 8 August to suggest other
wording for Q11-12
b) Patrick J will check with ICANN Legal staff if RFI needs legal scrutiny 

2. Staff will post the cleared RFI on ICANN website and on BigPulse, for
freeform input. There will be a link to BigPulse from the ICANN posting
indicating this option. 
Timeline: Foreseen posting date 10 August, deadline for input 15 September,
compilation of input by 21 September.

3. Kristina R and Jothan F will bilaterally pursue finalization of the UDRP
providers questions by 13 August.

4. Paul S and Danny Y will call for volunteers for data analysis once
statistical sampling is ready.

5. Staff will request comments on domain tasting experiences from the
remaining ccTLD registries within the top 10 and also notify the ccNSO for
ccTLD input once the RFI is posted.

6. Olof N will develop graph on deletes within AGP for com and net from
start 2007 until April.

7. Kristina R and Nick A-H will be in contact separately concerning BigPulse
use for the IPC.

8. Desirable to canvas RFI input from participants in Domain RoundTable in
Seattle, suggested by Jothan F - advice on best way to do that appreciated!
       
Participants
Mike Rodenbaugh - chair CBUC (Council) Kristina Rosette - IPC (Council) Greg
Ruth - ISPCP Danny Younger - NCUC Jothan Frakes - Registrar constituency
Margie Milam - Registrar constituency Paul Stahura - Registrar constituency
Marilyn Cade - CBUC

ICANN Staff
Olof Nordling - Manager, Policy Development Coordination Patrick Jones -
Registry Liaison Manager Nick Ashton Hart - Director for At-Large Glen de
Saint Géry  - GNSO Secretariat