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RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Two Additional Registrar Uses of AGP to get captured

  • To: "'Jothan Frakes'" <jfrakes@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Rosette, Kristina'" <krosette@xxxxxxx>, <gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Two Additional Registrar Uses of AGP to get captured
  • From: "Mike Rodenbaugh" <mxrodenbaugh@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:26:02 -0700

To be clear, I will add the additional detail as well, I just disagree that
these need to be enumerated separately from the benefit already put forward.

 

From: Jothan Frakes [mailto:jfrakes@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:28 AM
To: Rosette, Kristina; gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Olof Nordling; mxrodenbaugh@xxxxxxxxx; Robert F. Connelly
Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Two Additional Registrar Uses of AGP to get
captured

 

Kristina-

 

Good edit, and objections noted.

 

Olaf, the revised sentence would be better stated as:

Testing of a merchant gateway or payment processing, to handle credit cards,
electronic check, PayPal, or other electronic fund processing method is
common in the development process, to resolve problems, or as part of
testing new pricing or bundles.

 

-Jothan

 

 

Jothan Frakes

  

Oversee Domain Services

..................

 

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From: Rosette, Kristina [mailto:krosette@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:18 AM
To: Jothan Frakes; gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Olof Nordling; mxrodenbaugh@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Two Additional Registrar Uses of AGP to get
captured

 

For the record, and not unexpectedly, I object to the inclusion of the text
noted below.  We imposed a date cut-off on every other source of information
- the general RFI, the ccTLDs, the UDRP providers, and the IPC Supplemental
RFI.  There is no legitimate reason why the registrars should be treated any
differently.

 

As I assume my objection will be ignored, it would be helpful if the first
sentence of #7 was revised.  It's not clear.

 

Kristina 

 

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From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jothan Frakes
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:09 PM
To: gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Olof Nordling; mxrodenbaugh@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gnso-dt-wg] Two Additional Registrar Uses of AGP to get captured

 

Olaf, 

 

We received two additional uses of the AGP from the Secretary of the
Registrar Constituency and the RC wants these captured in the document
before it is finalized today.

 

These should be trivial changes, and non-controversially worded.

 

 

Replace the Findings Summary on page 24 with this:

OLD

Findings

The results of the poll of the registrars yielded five (5) perceived
benefits of the AGP, unrelated to domain tasting and domain kiting:

1.         Correcting typographical errors made by the registrant

2.         Using a cart "hold" system to provide access to names

3.         Mitigating fraud impacts;  

4.         Proactively monitoring the security and stability of their
provisioning systems; and  

5.         Addressing situations of Buyer's Remorse (defined below) on
behalf of the registrant

NEW Changes Bolded

Findings

The results of the poll of the registrars yielded seven (7) perceived
benefits of the AGP, unrelated to domain tasting and domain kiting:

1.         Correcting typographical errors made by the registrant

2.         Using a cart "hold" system to provide access to names

3.         Mitigating fraud impacts;  

4.         Proactively monitoring the security and stability of their
provisioning systems; and  

5.         Addressing situations of Buyer's Remorse (defined below) on
behalf of the registrant

6          Development Testing of real-time production system   

7          Merchant Gateway Testing and Development

 

Also, please add on page 27, after AGP use 5, following the paragraph that
ends with "While the customer may be relieved and more likely to be prudent
the next time around, the presence of AGP allows for better handling of
these circumstances for all parties."

 

 

AGP Use 6: Development testing of real-time production system

The current secretary of the Registrar Constituency, Bob Connolly, indicated
that there are registrars that utilize the AGP to relieve costs of
development where test domains are registered within the production
environment at a registry, either when adding new functionality to an
existing cart system or when adding new TLDs to a new cart system.

 

Additionally some of the registrars within the constituency offer reseller
services to web hosting companies or ISPs, and those resellers have to
integrate and develop to incorporate the domain registration process.

 

If domains are created in this manner, they are typically deleted
immediately, and they may or may not resolve to a web site briefly as part
of the development tests, but typically would not resolve to a monetization
service.

 

The AGP allows for costs associated with these tests to be self-remedied by
the registrar so that their systems are appropriately tested in a manner
that cannot be accomplished within the development sandboxes or "OTE"
(Operational Testing Environment) available at each registry, as there is
more frequently than not a requirement of domain resolution to ensure a web
hosting service environment is appropriately provisioned and resolving.

 

AGP Use 7: AGP returns from Merchant gateway testing or development

Though similar to the previously stated development use, it is important
that in order to ensure payment capture is functioning.  This leads to test
domains being registered, and the AGP is used to delete the domains so that
the development and testing does not create an expense.

 

In the event of a change of merchant gateway, or in the development or
integration of a new one, it becomes necessary to simulate the process that
would exist within a typical sales cycle to incorporate the payment action
within that cycle. Often it is necessary to test multiple price packages, as
domain term lengths (years registered), quantity of domains at once, and
additional services (quite frequently, domains are sold at below the
registry cost - at a loss - assuming the costs would be recouped in the
revenue from other services sold in conjunction), or other price groupings
impact the price to the consumer. Registrars or their resellers want to
ensure that the appropriate actions happen both in terms of payment and
fulfillment.

 

This means that there would be domains provisioned and deleted in the AGP,
may or may not resolve while exiting, depending upon any additional services
purchased in conjunction with the domains.

 

 

 

 

-Jothan

 

Jothan Frakes

  

Oversee Domain Services

..................

 



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Los Angeles, CA 90071

direct +1.213.925.5206

cell +1.206.355.0230

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