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[gnso-dt-wg] Fwd: RE: [At-Large] NeuStar and Afilias address domain tasting

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  • Subject: [gnso-dt-wg] Fwd: RE: [At-Large] NeuStar and Afilias address domain tasting
  • From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:01:13 -0500

Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:29:34 -0500
From: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [At-Large] NeuStar and Afilias address domain tasting
To: Franck Martin <franck.martin@xxxxxxxxx>,
 Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: At-Large Worldwide <alac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

If I may jump in:

We have found that non-tasting registrars have what we believe are legitimate deletes of up to 8 or 9% of their adds per month. These are for chargebacks, fraud, mistakes, etc. These mostly occur in registrars with reseller model. Again, these are not domain name tasting registrars or resellers. Unfortunately due to confidentiality reasons we cannot disclose who they are. So, we came up with 10% to provide a little cover.

Also, please note that for a domain name taster, deleting up to 10% is not economical at all and will eliminate their practice. Most tasters delete in excess of 95% or more of the names they add. That is the only way to make any money at it.

Would be happy to address further.

Hope that helps.

Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.
Sr. Director, Law, Advanced Services  &

Business Development

NeuStar, Inc.
e-mail: <mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx

From: alac-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:alac-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Franck Martin
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:04 PM
To: Alan Greenberg
Cc: At-Large Worldwide
Subject: Re: [At-Large] NeuStar and Afilias address domain tasting

Out of curiosity, this e-mail states 50 per month or 10% of that registrar. but what is the current rate? On 06/02/2008, Alan Greenberg <<mailto:alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I am delighted to report that NeuStar has submitted a request to ICANN to allow them to modify the Add Grace Period by reducing the number of deletes that a registrar can do for free on its .biz domain. The introduction to the request reads as follows:

TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPOSED SERVICE: Currently there are no limitations on the number of deletions that a registrar can process during the five-day AGP. The proposed service would limit the number of AGP deletions where a registrar could receive a full registration fee credit. This limit would be determined each month, with a maximum of 50 per month or 10% of that registrar?s net new monthly domain name registrations, whichever is greater. There would be no change to the current registry interface. A registrar would be permitted to delete as many names as it wished during the five-day AGP, receiving credit throughout the month. However, at the end of the NeuStar's normal monthly billing cycle the Registrar?s account would be debited for the full value of the domain name registrations that exceeded the month's set threshold. It is expected that Afilias will be submitting a similar request for .info.

The process to get this done started in a small work-group at the San Juan ICANN meeting. Although we had hoped that it would happen much sooner, it is great that it has now been done and can impact the discussions in Delhi.

The full text of the request can be found attached to <http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg04586.html>http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg04586.html .


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