Re: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Definition V4.2: concern about "consumer-grade"

[Joe St Sauver <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Wendy mentioned:

#I see that use of consumer-grade ASs may be a frequent symptom of
#malicious fast-flux, but we should take care not to encourage
#discrimination against consumers' use of their Internet connections.

As long as it is the *consumer* that's using their connection, and 
not some spammer/child pornographer/etc. :-;

#I don't want this group to follow the anti-spam pattern, of making
#consumer Internet connections less equal peers because some of them are
#subject to abuse.

Hate to say it, but please note that fastflux *is* a spam-related 
activity. 

And what you're seeing is a reaction by the botmasters to steps taken
to limit the usefulness of botted hosts for spam deliver -- because
ISPs are blocking port 25 traffic, the spammers have a large inventory
of hosts that can't be used to spam, so they use them for hosting, 
instead.

Regards,

Joe