Re: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Abuse in general

["George Kirikos" <fastflux@xxxxxxxx>]

In other words, all "Fast Flux" networks would be "Bunny Rabbit
Networks". But, not all "Bunny Rabbit Networks" are "fast flux"
networks, using your definition of "fast flux."

Sincerely,

George Kirikos
www.LEAP.com

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, George Kirikos <fastflux@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Dave Piscitello
> <dave.piscitello@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> The criminals may have adopted short TTLs but that's not the only marker.
>> Anyone who looks at a DNS configuration, sees a short TTL, and concludes
>> "this is a fast flux attack" is going to be wrong. And we have already
>> agreed to this point.
>
> I'm fully aware of the differences, involving round robin DNS, and
> other factors. It's a question of semantics. i.e. if you *define*
> "Fast Flux" as involving compromised hosts, as per the Wiki:
>
> https://st.icann.org/pdp-wg-ff/index.cgi?initial_draft_definitions
>
> and "malicious content costs"  then you're talking about one thing.
> The underlying technology, though, is content neutral. Suppose I call
> the underlying technology as "Bunny Rabbit Networks" (which do a lot
> of "hopping"), for lack of a better term, i.e. all the identical
> technological aspects, but excluding anything that's illegal or
> involving compromised. e.g. used for torrents, free speech or other
> legitimate applications that might not even exist yet.
>
> We want to make sure that "Bunny Rabbit Networks" can continue (which
> some folks might call "Fast Flux *TECHNOLOGY*"), but bar the malicious
> aspects (which you define implicitly as "fast flux" to include the
> criminal and malcious aspects).
>
> It's like some people perhaps defining a "Death Ray" as a laser that
> is used by malicious countries to shoot down innocent citizens. If
> "Death Ray Technology" can be used for something else (e.g. improving
> crop yields through focused energy), we don't want to ban the lasers
> themselves.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> www.LEAP.com
>