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Re: [gnso-frn-dt] i had a go at a revised draft of the report

  • To: "\"Michele Neylon :: Blacknight\"" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-frn-dt] i had a go at a revised draft of the report
  • From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:35:36 -0700

Dear All,

Please find attached the updated 'final' version of the report for
submission to the GNSO Council (I've attached both a clean version as well
as a redline to facilitate review). If there any objections, please advise
the mailing list as soon as possible. If no objections are made, I'll send
the report to the GNSO Council tomorrow, 21 June.

With best regards,

Marika

P.S. This is the same version as circulated to the mailing list yesterday,
apart from adding the date.

On 20/06/12 11:14, ""Michele Neylon :: Blacknight""
<michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Just for the record
>
>I support the edits and the approach
>
>And Squishy is very happy to have been mentioned on an ICANN mailing list
>https://twitter.com/mneylon/status/215346668659417088
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>________________________________________
>From: owner-gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx [owner-gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx] on behalf
>of Mike O'Connor [mike@xxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: 19 June 2012 21:03
>To: Marika Konings; gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [gnso-frn-dt] i had a go at a revised draft of the report
>
>yep, works for me.
>
>sorry about the sluggish reply.  note to self -- don't try to keep up
>with two 20-something surveyors when they're tromping around in your
>woods putting in survey markers.  i felt like Squishy at the end.
>
>go for it Marika.  and many thanks.
>
>mikey
>
>
>On Jun 19, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Marika Konings wrote:
>
>> Mikey, are you also okay with this approach? If so, I'll go ahead and
>> check with the Council leadership whether there is any time available
>> during the weekend or on Wednesday.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Marika
>>
>> On 19/06/12 17:37, "jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message--------
>>> Subject:: Re: [gnso-frn-dt] i had a go at a revised draft of the report
>>> From: Paul Diaz &lt;pdiaz@xxxxxxx&gt;
>>> Date: Jun 19, 2012 10:24
>>> To:: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> CC: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>,"gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx"
>>> <gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Great points, Marika.  Then I suggest we forgo the pubic comment review
>>> tool and present Marika's revised draft to the Council at the weekend
>>> session (if time permits) or the Wednesday open meeting.  Mikey, please
>>> be sure to sensitize the Council to the DT's scope limits and the need
>>> for careful chartering to address all of the relevant issues - if/when
>>> Council decides to initiate a formal PDP.
>>>
>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Marika Konings wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe just to clarify, the GNSO Council did request the DT at its last
>>> meeting to review the comments received, decide whether any changes
>>>should
>>> be made to its report as a result and report back accordingly to the
>>>GNSO
>>> Council. Obviously, it is up to the DT to decide how to do this, with
>>>or
>>> without a public comment review tool. With regard to a Council
>>>liaison, I
>>> don't believe there is one for this group, but when the report is
>>> delivered to the GNSO Council I would expect that the Chair of the DT
>>>is
>>> invited to present the report and provide any additional commentary, as
>>> necessary. If the DT is in agreement with the latest version of the
>>> report, you may even want to consider asking for some time on the GNSO
>>> Council schedule on the weekend or on the open meeting on Wednesday to
>>> explain the changes made (even if the Council may not be in a position
>>>yet
>>> to take a formal decision on the report and the recommendations).
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> Marika
>>>
>>> On 19/06/12 16:34, "Paul Diaz" <pdiaz@xxxxxxx><mailto:pdiaz@xxxxxxx>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Mikey.  We're just a DT, and are supposed to have a very
>>> narrow mandate.  While I commend efforts to make any policy work as
>>> accountable and transparent as possible, I think it sets a bad
>>>precedent
>>> to get ahead of the process with a public comment review tool.
>>>
>>> I suggest that we submit Mikey's revised draft to the Council and note
>>> the comments received.  Council can then decide how to proceed.  Who is
>>> this DT's liaison to the Council?  If DT's don't have one, let's be
>>>sure
>>> to clearly communicate the limits we saw for ourselves, and make sure
>>>any
>>> PDP charter allows the WG to explore the issues raised.
>>>
>>> Best, P
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> i have mixed views about the public-review tool.  we've already
>>>exceeded
>>> our charter with all those suggestions.  our solution to that was to go
>>> out for public comment so that the Council would have some reactions.
>>> but we're just a drafting team, not a PDP working group and i worry
>>>that
>>> we're sliding down a slippery slope.
>>>
>>> i'd much rather get this back in the hands of the Council where it
>>> belongs and put us out of business.
>>>
>>> i suppose one way to do that is not to change the report at all, tell
>>>the
>>> Council that the report plus comments on that report are now in their
>>> hands and it's up to them to make a decision.
>>>
>>> mikey
>>>
>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Marika Konings wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mikey,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delay. Please find attached a slightly revised version in
>>> which I've updated some of the sections to reflect the current state of
>>> the report as well as including the report of public comments as an
>>>Annex.
>>> With regard to your question, if/when the DT signs off on the revised
>>> draft, it will get submitted to the GNSO Council which will then need
>>>to
>>> decide how to proceed. One thing the DT may want to consider doing, in
>>> addition to the revisions in the report, is to create a public comment
>>> review tool in which a response is provided to each of the submissions
>>>so
>>> this can be included as an annex and shows that due consideration is
>>>given
>>> to all comments, even if not all have resulted in changes to the
>>>report.
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> Marika
>>>
>>> On 18/06/12 16:23, "Mike O'Connor"
>>> <mike@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> hm.
>>>
>>> the silence is "great job mikey"?  i'm thinking it would be nice to get
>>> this little one cleared off the plate fairly quickly -- Marika, what
>>> happens to a revised draft once we give it the nod?
>>>
>>> mikey
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>>
>>> hi all,
>>>
>>> 'seemed like scheduling and logistics got Too Hard.  it also seemed
>>> like the comments were pretty easy to accommodate.  so i just went
>>>ahead
>>> and cranked out a new draft.
>>>
>>> it's unchanged until we get down to the "options" part at the end.
>>> there, i added one to add this to an upcoming WHOIS PDP with a "worthy
>>> of broader discussion by the Council but not our preferred approach"
>>> pretty much in line with our view on adding it to a PDP on the RAA.  i
>>> also refined the "launch a PDP on FRN" one that we had at the end based
>>> on the ALAC comments -- there, i made the "narrow" point more clear,
>>> added some benefits and bumped it up to that same "worthy of broader
>>> discussion but not our preferred approach" status.
>>>
>>> so take a look at this draft and see what you think.  the substantive
>>> change is to agree on what our views are about those two additions, i
>>> think.
>>>
>>> mikey
>>>
>>> <FRN Rp1 - wComments v1 - 16 June 2012.doc>
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