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Re: [gnso-frn-dt] i had a go at a revised draft of the report

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  • Subject: Re: [gnso-frn-dt] i had a go at a revised draft of the report
  • From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:10:51 -0500

oops.  missed my change of affiliation from CBUC to ISPCP on page 8.  no big 
deal, but nice if we could sneak it in…

except for that -- rockin'!  looks good from here.  thanks again!

mikey


On Jun 20, 2012, at 5:35 AM, Marika Konings wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> Please find attached the updated 'final' version of the report for
> submission to the GNSO Council (I've attached both a clean version as well
> as a redline to facilitate review). If there any objections, please advise
> the mailing list as soon as possible. If no objections are made, I'll send
> the report to the GNSO Council tomorrow, 21 June.
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> Marika
> 
> P.S. This is the same version as circulated to the mailing list yesterday,
> apart from adding the date.
> 
> On 20/06/12 11:14, ""Michele Neylon :: Blacknight""
> <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Just for the record
>> 
>> I support the edits and the approach
>> 
>> And Squishy is very happy to have been mentioned on an ICANN mailing list
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: owner-gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx [owner-gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx] on behalf
>> of Mike O'Connor [mike@xxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 19 June 2012 21:03
>> To: Marika Konings; gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [gnso-frn-dt] i had a go at a revised draft of the report
>> 
>> yep, works for me.
>> 
>> sorry about the sluggish reply.  note to self -- don't try to keep up
>> with two 20-something surveyors when they're tromping around in your
>> woods putting in survey markers.  i felt like Squishy at the end.
>> 
>> go for it Marika.  and many thanks.
>> 
>> mikey
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Marika Konings wrote:
>> 
>>> Mikey, are you also okay with this approach? If so, I'll go ahead and
>>> check with the Council leadership whether there is any time available
>>> during the weekend or on Wednesday.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Marika
>>> 
>>> On 19/06/12 17:37, "jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> +1
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Original Message--------
>>>> Subject:: Re: [gnso-frn-dt] i had a go at a revised draft of the report
>>>> From: Paul Diaz &lt;pdiaz@xxxxxxx&gt;
>>>> Date: Jun 19, 2012 10:24
>>>> To:: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> CC: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>,"gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx"
>>>> <gnso-frn-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> 
>>>> Great points, Marika.  Then I suggest we forgo the pubic comment review
>>>> tool and present Marika's revised draft to the Council at the weekend
>>>> session (if time permits) or the Wednesday open meeting.  Mikey, please
>>>> be sure to sensitize the Council to the DT's scope limits and the need
>>>> for careful chartering to address all of the relevant issues - if/when
>>>> Council decides to initiate a formal PDP.
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Marika Konings wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe just to clarify, the GNSO Council did request the DT at its last
>>>> meeting to review the comments received, decide whether any changes
>>>> should
>>>> be made to its report as a result and report back accordingly to the
>>>> GNSO
>>>> Council. Obviously, it is up to the DT to decide how to do this, with
>>>> or
>>>> without a public comment review tool. With regard to a Council
>>>> liaison, I
>>>> don't believe there is one for this group, but when the report is
>>>> delivered to the GNSO Council I would expect that the Chair of the DT
>>>> is
>>>> invited to present the report and provide any additional commentary, as
>>>> necessary. If the DT is in agreement with the latest version of the
>>>> report, you may even want to consider asking for some time on the GNSO
>>>> Council schedule on the weekend or on the open meeting on Wednesday to
>>>> explain the changes made (even if the Council may not be in a position
>>>> yet
>>>> to take a formal decision on the report and the recommendations).
>>>> 
>>>> With best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Marika
>>>> 
>>>> On 19/06/12 16:34, "Paul Diaz" <pdiaz@xxxxxxx><mailto:pdiaz@xxxxxxx>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with Mikey.  We're just a DT, and are supposed to have a very
>>>> narrow mandate.  While I commend efforts to make any policy work as
>>>> accountable and transparent as possible, I think it sets a bad
>>>> precedent
>>>> to get ahead of the process with a public comment review tool.
>>>> 
>>>> I suggest that we submit Mikey's revised draft to the Council and note
>>>> the comments received.  Council can then decide how to proceed.  Who is
>>>> this DT's liaison to the Council?  If DT's don't have one, let's be
>>>> sure
>>>> to clearly communicate the limits we saw for ourselves, and make sure
>>>> any
>>>> PDP charter allows the WG to explore the issues raised.
>>>> 
>>>> Best, P
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> i have mixed views about the public-review tool.  we've already
>>>> exceeded
>>>> our charter with all those suggestions.  our solution to that was to go
>>>> out for public comment so that the Council would have some reactions.
>>>> but we're just a drafting team, not a PDP working group and i worry
>>>> that
>>>> we're sliding down a slippery slope.
>>>> 
>>>> i'd much rather get this back in the hands of the Council where it
>>>> belongs and put us out of business.
>>>> 
>>>> i suppose one way to do that is not to change the report at all, tell
>>>> the
>>>> Council that the report plus comments on that report are now in their
>>>> hands and it's up to them to make a decision.
>>>> 
>>>> mikey
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Marika Konings wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mikey,
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for the delay. Please find attached a slightly revised version in
>>>> which I've updated some of the sections to reflect the current state of
>>>> the report as well as including the report of public comments as an
>>>> Annex.
>>>> With regard to your question, if/when the DT signs off on the revised
>>>> draft, it will get submitted to the GNSO Council which will then need
>>>> to
>>>> decide how to proceed. One thing the DT may want to consider doing, in
>>>> addition to the revisions in the report, is to create a public comment
>>>> review tool in which a response is provided to each of the submissions
>>>> so
>>>> this can be included as an annex and shows that due consideration is
>>>> given
>>>> to all comments, even if not all have resulted in changes to the
>>>> report.
>>>> 
>>>> With best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Marika
>>>> 
>>>> On 18/06/12 16:23, "Mike O'Connor"
>>>> <mike@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> hm.
>>>> 
>>>> the silence is "great job mikey"?  i'm thinking it would be nice to get
>>>> this little one cleared off the plate fairly quickly -- Marika, what
>>>> happens to a revised draft once we give it the nod?
>>>> 
>>>> mikey
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> 'seemed like scheduling and logistics got Too Hard.  it also seemed
>>>> like the comments were pretty easy to accommodate.  so i just went
>>>> ahead
>>>> and cranked out a new draft.
>>>> 
>>>> it's unchanged until we get down to the "options" part at the end.
>>>> there, i added one to add this to an upcoming WHOIS PDP with a "worthy
>>>> of broader discussion by the Council but not our preferred approach"
>>>> pretty much in line with our view on adding it to a PDP on the RAA.  i
>>>> also refined the "launch a PDP on FRN" one that we had at the end based
>>>> on the ALAC comments -- there, i made the "narrow" point more clear,
>>>> added some benefits and bumped it up to that same "worthy of broader
>>>> discussion but not our preferred approach" status.
>>>> 
>>>> so take a look at this draft and see what you think.  the substantive
>>>> change is to agree on what our views are about those two additions, i
>>>> think.
>>>> 
>>>> mikey
>>>> 
>>>> <FRN Rp1 - wComments v1 - 16 June 2012.doc>
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