Re: Homograph and terminology in generel --- was: [gnso-idn-wg] One comment on techno-policy details

[Mawaki Chango <ki_chango@xxxxxxxxx>]

So, since a domain name string is not a grapheme (one character) but
more of a lexeme (a "string" as we say, that is, a word in the
vocabulary of the DNS), what we are talking about eventually boils
down to:

"Homographs that only differ from each other by one or more
homoglyphs," with

Homographs = words, lexemes, or strings that are graphically identic
(have the same spelling) but with different origins and meanings;
Homoglyphs = characters that are graphically or visually identic.

Thus, without changing anything to the definitions Tina and Cary
cited, the use of "homograph" was not that wrong. Just that the most
apecific and complete way to say it, is: "Homographs that only differ
from each other by one or more homoglyphs." Shorthand: homograph!

Maybe this will find its way to our wiki-lexicon to be?

Best,

Mawaki 

--- Cary Karp <ck@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Two characters from different scripts that cannot be distinguished
> from
> each other visually are properly termed "homoglyphs". This is also
> in
> the Wikipedia, and the more colloquial term used in its stead is
> "look-alike characters". The designation "homograph" is entirely
> incorrect as it has been used in the discussion of IDN.
> 
> There is a further term used to designate strings of homoglyphs --
> "apsyeoxic" -- also in the Wikipedia.
> 
> /Cary
> 
> > Just a reminder to everyone. We need to be careful about use and
> > choice of terminology.
> >  
> > For example, homograph is defined as 
> > 
> > "A word with the same spelling as another or others, but with a
> > different meaning and origin and sometimes a different
> > pronunciation." 
> > 
> > A quick Google search gives the following examples: 
> > 
> > 1) the noun conduct and the verb conduct are homographs
> > 
> > 2) Many people have difficulty when trying to parallel park. It
> was a
> > beautiful day for a walk in the park. "park" being homographs.
> > 
> > 
> > Note, this is not the same as typographic similarities.
> >  
> > Lets make sure we use the wiki so that we are all on the same
> page
> > and know what we talk about.
>