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Re: [gnso-idng] Draft Charter for an IDNG WG

  • To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Edmon Chung <edmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-idng] Draft Charter for an IDNG WG
  • From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:00:01 +0200

Great work Edmon.
Just a additional comment as far as I'm concerned. Just trying to make the
document easier to understand/follow for the initiated.

Thanks.

Stéphane


Le 27/05/09 14:52, « Gomes, Chuck » <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Thanks Edmon.  I made some suggested edits and inserted a couple
> comments that are highlighted in the attached file.  I intentionally did
> not send this to the Council list because I thought it was too late to
> modify the document you just sent to the Council.  At best, I think the
> Council discussion this week will be at a high level so the DT can
> consider my suggested edits after we see what comes out of the Council
> discussion.
> 
> Chuck 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Edmon Chung [mailto:edmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:15 AM
>> To: 'Adrian Kinderis'; Gomes, Chuck; gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: [gnso-idng] Draft Charter for an IDNG WG
>> 
>> Hi Adrian,
>> 
>> Sorry for the slow response, was out of action for a few days
>> due to a very potent virus.
>> 
>>> When are we next meeting (teleconference again?)?
>>> Hopefully in hours that are conducive to AEST.
>> 
>> Should try to arrange one after this week's council meeting I
>> think, maybe next week.
>> 
>>> To preview my feelings on the group;
>>> 
>>> What is the difference between an IDN gTLD and an ASCII
>> gTLD and why 
>>> would
>> it
>>> be sufficient to require a fast track? Just because they
>> are different
>> scripts
>>> doesn't mean they don't suffer the same issues with trademark
>>> infringement
>> etc
>>> that new ASCII gTLD are currently managing.
>> 
>> This is one of the issues the IDNG WG need to discussed, as
>> expressed in the
>> scope:
>> * Consideration for requirements of rights protection mechanisms
>> 
>> I do think there is a potential difference especially for
>> existing gTLDs seeking an equivalent IDN TLD, and for IDN
>> gTLDs with TLD strings that represent unique concepts of the
>> given language.  That being said, I think this discussion may
>> be premature because it should be had at the WG instead of
>> here.  And I do think if we define the scope carefully, we
>> can deal with this to the satisfaction of the concerned stakeholders.
>> 
>> 
>>> IDN ccTLD are able to fast track because they are able to
>> define their
>> area from
>>> an existing list (and are finite). The same could not be
>> said for IDN
>> gTLD's.
>> 
>> We could limit the IDN gTLD Fast Track to a specific scope.
>> Which is one of the key jobs for the IDNG WG to figure out if formed.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I would have more preference for a geo TLD fast track as there is a
>>> finite
>> groups
>>> and ICANN staff (and GNSO Council) have done well to define
>> the rules 
>>> and restrictions around their take up.
>> 
>> The issue of IDN gTLDs have been in discussion since 2000!!
>> From there, multiple policy papers, issue papers, workshops,
>> sessions, board resolutions have been done.  This is an issue
>> of significant urgency for the language communities around
>> the world.  The same cannot be said for geo TLDs, where no
>> policy development has been pursued.  That topic has only
>> been introduced very recently.  I am certainly not against
>> geo TLDs, in fact I am a big proponent for it, but I think we
>> need to separate the two issues.  And given the long standing
>> of the IDN discussion there is little question in my mind
>> that there should be some priority.
>> 
>> 
>> Attached is the updated IDNG Charter Draft2, including
>> discussions from the
>> call:
>> 1. consideration of different types of TLDs for the WG 2.
>> that should be implemented comfortably ahead of the full New
>> gTLD process 3. explanation in background describing the
>> urgency for IDN gTLDs
>> 
>> Will also circulate it to the council list.
>> 
>> Edmon
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, just a few thought to get the ball rolling.
>>> 
>>> Adrian Kinderis
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:owner-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
>>> Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2009 5:12 AM
>>> To: Edmon Chung; gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: [gnso-idng] Draft Charter for an IDNG WG
>>> 
>>> Thanks Edmon.  I made a few edits that are highlighted in
>> the attached
>> file.
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edmon Chung
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 7:53 AM
>>>> To: gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [gnso-idng] Draft Charter for an IDNG WG
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> Based on the discussion so far, and appropriating much
>> from the IDNC 
>>>> Charter (for your easy reference:
>>>> http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/idnc-charter.htm),
>>>> please find attached a draft charter for an IDNG WG.
>>>> 
>>>> Basically, have incorporated the discussion we had regarding:
>>>> 1. Purpose
>>>> 2. Scope
>>>> 3. Process
>>>> 4. Membership
>>>> 
>>>> And added
>>>> 5. Timeline
>>>> 6. Background & References
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps we should try to organize a conference call to talk about
>>>> the document sometime next week...
>>>> 
>>>> Edmon
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> PS. Glen, would it be possible to help try to coordinate
>> a possible 
>>>> call (for ~1.5hrs) for next week... My own availability are as
>>>> follows:
>>>> Mon/Tue/Fri between 1100-1500ET (1500-1900UTC)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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