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[gnso-igo-ingo] RE: Objective Criteria Shortlist
- To: Kiran Malancharuvil <kmalancharuvil@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] RE: Objective Criteria Shortlist
- From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:53:58 +0000
Is there any one in our WG who does not agree that criteria should be
"objective, easily verified, and justified". The first two are no-brainers for
me personally; 'justified' is a little more vague to me. I guess if
justification can be objectively verified, we are probably okay.
Chuck
From: owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:59 PM
To: gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Jim Bikoff; David Heasley; Thomas Rickert (rickert@xxxxxxxxxxx); Berry Cobb
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Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] RE: Objective Criteria Shortlist
Dear Claudia and All:
While we agree with many of your points, that organizations should be
international, non-profit organizations that serve the public good, our goal,
as Thomas has reminded us, is to develop a prioritized short list of criteria
that are objective, easily verified, and justified.
While the points you raise (including membership composition, organizational
mandate to serve the public good, and the remaining items 3-7) are good
justifications for protection, they do not represent appropriate criteria for
special protection, as they would be difficult to implement and over-inclusive.
This group must focus on this distinction when developing qualification
criteria. Criteria must be objective, easily verified, and not overly
inclusive. Questions such as X-number of domain names and what constitutes a
"public good" run a high risk of being arbitrary and subjective.
In addition, we very much agree with you that any treaty and/or national law
should be relevant to the string protected. For example, the national laws
cited by the IOC protect against the unauthorized use of at least the words
Olympic and Olympiad, as we stated in last week's call. This can be easily
verified.
We look forward to discussing this more on today's call.
Best regards,
Jim Bikoff, David Heasley and Kiran Malancharuvil
Kiran J. Malancharuvil
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From: Claudia MACMASTER TAMARIT [mailto:MACMASTER@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:08 AM
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Cc: Thomas Rickert (rickert@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:rickert@xxxxxxxxxxx>); Berry
Cobb (mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>); Jim Bikoff; David
Heasley; Kiran Malancharuvil
Subject: Objective Criteria Shortlist
Hi all,
We strongly support the effort to work efficiently and steadily towards an
objective and non-discriminatory Recommendation regarding special protections
for IGO-INGO names. In this light, we suggest the following prioritized list
of criteria:
1) Membership (e.g., 1+ country represented)
2) Organizational mandate to serve the international public good (e.g.,
Statutes, Bylaws, Treaty, etc.)
3) Character string to be protected is already protected in law (e.g.,
trademark law, Article 6ter)
4) Non-profit status
5) Work/serve on international level (e.g., 1+ countries or 1+
international organization)
6) Engage individuals globally (e.g., involving persons from 1+ country)
7) Internet presence (e.g., at least 1 domain name)
Please note the last criteria is suggested in light of our recent conversations
(and could be expanded to include evidence of defending that presence, if
appropriate.) Of course any discussion of an organization's efforts to defend
against domain name abuse must be contextualized.
There is a deep irony in requiring "vulnerable" organizations to show that they
have and can shell out thousands and thousands on a yearly basis for domain
name abuse. Such an exercise needs to be contextualized with reference to the
organization's mandate and operational realities.
In regards to the attached, we disagree that "The most objective, and useful
criterion to the inquiry is the existence of national laws or treaties that
prohibit the unauthorized use of the words/designations in question" for the
following reasons;
a. The relationship between the aspect protected by treaty and the
alphanumeric string to be protected may be far from direct or objectively
assessed (unless, e.g., it is the Paris Convention, TRIPs, etc. where TM = name
or 6ter protection = name).
b. Relatedly, the relevance a treaty may have in regards to the protection
of a name in a domain name may not be readily evident (unless, e.g., again, the
name is directly protected).
c. Reference to a treaty may exclude many organizations (for example,
organizations without trademark protection for their names across multiple
jurisdictions) without any legitimate justification.
d. We should remember there is nothing in the language of the charter that
limits us when discussing the relevance of treaty protections. The cases for
INGOs, IGOs and the IOC and the Red Cross may be vastly different and merit
individual analysis.
As a final note, we suggest the top two (2) criteria are of priority.
Both (1) membership composition and (2) possessing an organizational mandate to
serve the international public good are criteria directed to including only
organizations with a truly global reach and which serve the public good.
Sincerely,
Claudia
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit, Esq.
Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) Manager
International Organization for Standardization (ISO)
ISO Central Secretariat
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F: + 41 22 733 3430
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