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[gnso-igo-ingo] RE: Qualification Criteria - Report
- To: Kiran Malancharuvil <kmalancharuvil@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] RE: Qualification Criteria - Report
- From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 00:20:42 +0000
Please see my personal comments and questions inserted in the message below.
Chuck
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Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:20 AM
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Cc: MACMASTER@xxxxxxx; Jim Bikoff; David Heasley; Thomas Rickert;
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Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] Qualification Criteria - Report
Importance: High
Dear Thomas and all:
After some discussion amongst the Qualification Criteria group members that
have proposed criteria for prioritization and short-listing, we present the
following prioritized criteria for further discussion amongst the group
members. There remain some significantly diverging views amongst the group
members. To avoid misrepresentation, the author of each viewpoint is stated,
along with commentary.
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):
[Gomes, Chuck] Claudia - Is the intent that all six of the following
Qualifications would be required?
1. Existence of national laws or treaties that prohibit the unauthorized
use of the words/designations in question;[Gomes, Chuck] The New gTLD PDP WG
made a conscious decision to focus on international laws in contrast to
national laws because of the international nature of gTLDs, so I have a concern
about the way this is worded. Do you mean the existence of international
treaties that are adopted by multiple national jurisdictions?
1. Status of the international organization as a non-profit institution;
1. Membership (number of member countries in the international organization,
including percentage of governmental/public members) to be weighed as a part of
a multi-factored analysis where numbers may be considered flexible benchmarks,
e.g., over 50 countries or representational 25% of the world's population,
etc.);[Gomes, Chuck] As you have heard me say many times, the New gTLD PDP WG
discouraged subjective criteria. It would have to be a subjective decision to
determine these qualifications: How many member countries are required? What
percentage of governmental/public members is needed? What percent of the
world's population is required? Where do we draw the lines?
1. Organizational mandate for international public service (e.g., Statutes,
Bylaws, Treaty, etc.);[Gomes, Chuck] What is an organizational mandate? What
happens if an organizational mandate is not being fulfilled? Who would
determine that and how? What definition of public service do we use?
1. Work/serve on international level: Number of countries in which the
international organization has operations or provides services and/or products;
Nature and extent of collaborations with governments and other international
organizations (again, to be weighed in a multi-factored analysis);[Gomes,
Chuck] In how many countries would an organization have to operate or serve?
This would require a subjective decision.
1. Engage individuals globally: Nature and impact of work, services and/or
products on an international level in regards to communities, industries, etc.
[Gomes, Chuck] To me this qualification is extremely subjective.
**NOTE: The group agreed to strike the previously proposed criteria "Internet
presence (e.g., at least 1 domain name)" from the prioritized short-list.
IOC Commentary on ISO Proposed Criteria
We continue to believe that the following criteria is over-inclusive, and some
criterion run the risk of being arbitrary and subjective. This is particularly
true with (2)-(6). While these criteria are useful as justification for
protection, the IOC proposes that they should be used as secondary
considerations. For example, an organization must first demonstrate that they
are the subject of special protection which prohibits the unauthorized use of
the words in question and then demonstrate that they are an international
not-for-profit organization which serves the international public good.
[Gomes, Chuck] As can be seen in my comments above, I believe that 'arbitrary
and subjective' criteria go counter to the intent of the GNSO New gTLD
recommendations so I agree with the IOC comments here.
With regard to criteria (1) above, national laws should refer to special sui
generis legislation and not to multi-national trademark protection (although an
organization with sui generis legislation can also have multi-national
trademark protection). As previously discussed in this Working Group, the
Reserved Names Working Group already addressed special protection for trademark
holders in general, but did not address the specific cases of those
organizations protected by treaty and/or sui generis legislation.
IOC:
1. National laws and/or treaties that prohibit the unauthorized use of the
words/designations in question
2. Not-for-profit status
[Gomes, Chuck] These two criteria are objective and relatively easy to
measure if we assume that treaties are worded clearly. I have a concern about
focusing on just 'national laws' for the same reason I stated above, i.e., the
New gTLD PDP WG made a conscious decision to focus on international laws in
contrast to national laws because of the international nature of gTLDs. So I
would change 'and/or' to 'and'.
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO) Commentary on IOC Proposed Criteria (Note: If
we misrepresented anything you said, please correct, subtract or add any
commentary)
The group should not implement protections that are discriminatory to some
organizations over others. [Gomes, Chuck] Aren't all criteria by definition
discriminatory? Even 'first come, first served' is discriminatory; it
discriminates against those who are not active in ICANN. I think it would be
helpful if you clarified what you mean.
Multi-national trademark protection is sufficient to satisfy the "protection by
national law" criterion.[Gomes, Chuck] Like I said earlier, I don't think
protection by national law is a satisfactory criterion for gTLDs that are
international in scope. Which nations' laws would we use? Restricting
qualification to those organizations that are the exclusive subject of National
Law or Treaty is discriminatory. [Gomes, Chuck] The only way not to
discriminate is to protect all organizations; that doesn't work. Please
explain.
We hope this is helpful to the group in furthering our discussion about
Qualification Criteria.
We look forward to tomorrow's call.
Thank you,
Jim Bikoff, David Heasley and Kiran Malancharuvil
Kiran J. Malancharuvil
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