[gnso-igo-ingo] RE: MP3 IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group - 13 February 2013
Note that I am scheduled to be at the airport before boarding a plane during this call. I will try to participate on the call for at least part of the meeting if possible but likely will not be able to participate for the entire call. Chuck From: owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gisella Gruber Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:04 PM To: GNSO IGO INGO Cc: GNSO Secretariats Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] MP3 IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group - 13 February 2013 Dear All, The next call for the IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group is scheduled on Wednesday 20 February at 17:00 UTC. Please find the MP3 recording of the IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group teleconference held on Wednesday 13 February 2013 at 1900 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-20130213-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-20130213-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#feb The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Iliya Bazlyankov - RrSG Jim Bikoff - IPC/IOC Avri Doria - NCSG Chuck Gomes - RySG Alan Greenberg - ALAC Catherine Gribbin - Red Cross Stephane Hankins - NCSG David Heasley - IPC/IOC Evan Lebovitch - ALAC Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC/IOC Christopher Rassi - Red Cross Thomas Rickert - NCA -Working group chair Greg Shatan - IPC Claudia MacMaster Tamarit - ISO Mary Wong - NCUC Mason Cole - GNSO Council vice chair - RrSG Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP Elizabeth Finberg - RySG Lanre Ajayi - NCA Debra Hughes - NPOC Apologies: Robin Gross Wolfgang Kleinwachter ICANN Staff: Brian Peck Berry Cobb Gisella Gruber ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Thank you. Kind regards, Gisella ************* Adobe Chat transcript for 13 February 2013: Berry Cobb: Welcome to the 13 FEB 2013 IGO-INGO Conference call. Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Hi all, Kiran, Jim and David are here and on the phone. Gisella Gruber-White: Kiran - would you be so kind as to confirm David's surname Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Heasley! Sorry, I was a minute too late on that one. Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Thanks Gisella Gisella Gruber-White: Thank you Avri Doria: So we are still without an answer on International law? Gisella Gruber-White: Debra Hughes has joined the call Gisella Gruber-White: Osvaldo Novoa has joined the call Osvaldo Novoa: Hi All, Sorry I'm late Evan Leibovitch: +1 Avri Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): +1 Thomas Alan Greenberg: Am I the only one with a big blank area in the middle of the window Berry is sharing?? Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): I am experiencing that as well Alan Gisella Gruber-White: Same here Mary Wong: If u stare really, really hard, you can see a white rabbit :) :) Evan Leibovitch: Thank you very much for this work. This is the kind of hard evidence that helps establish whether abuse is real or imagined Evan Leibovitch: (of course there are some grey areas, such as the judgement of whether a monetizing squatter constitutes "abuse" or "harm" Evan Leibovitch: (the yellow sqares on the chart) Greg Shatan: That doesn't seem like much of a gray area to me. Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): +1 Greg Evan Leibovitch: Is to me. Greg Shatan: Remind me to monetize evanleibovitch.com . Evan Leibovitch: you're welcome to it Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): prohibition by law is pretty black and white to us. Evan Leibovitch: IThen use the law. Evan Leibovitch: Actually, Greg. evanleibovitch.* will be unbought by me in any new gTLDs. You're wlecome to them too. Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): The law need not only be applied reactively. Greg Shatan: No, thanks. I don't want to break the law. Alan Greenberg: I know they extracted lots of money from not-for-profit universities. Greg Shatan: This is supposed to be a self-regulatory body, among other things. UDRP was created not because there was no law to enforce., but because it was in the best interests of Internet stakeholders to have a cost-effective mechanism to deal with domain name infringement issues and to forestall costly potential litigation that might have had uncertain and far-reaching consequences. Greg Shatan: Not the Martlet?! Evan Leibovitch: I have no problem with IGOs and INGOs having access to URS and UDRP. It's asking for broader protections -- ones not even available for trandemark holders -- that is at issue Evan Leibovitch: +1 Alan Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): +1 Thomas Evan Leibovitch: +1 Greg Avri Doria: i hate the name MRNLCH Avri Doria: but i am ok with the idea Evan Leibovitch: I thought we were not talking implementation? Avri Doria: Humanitarian Organization Clearing House? Evan Leibovitch: Do yopu want me to speak to it more? Avri Doria: Special Organization Clearing House Avri Doria: Modified RPMs is something I think could be 'sold' to my constituency/SG. blocking is not. (caveats on the fact that I have not tried to make the sale yett, and thius am only speaking personally) Osvaldo Novoa: All, sorry but I have to leave for another meeting. Best regards Greg Shatan: IGOTCHA = International Governmental (and Nongovernmental) Organization Clearing House Annex Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): a very enthusiastic +1 to IGOTCHA Greg Avri Doria: I have to admit IGOTCHA sound appropriate. Berry Cobb: http://www.igotcha.com/ Avri Doria: LOL Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): awww man. back to the drawing board. Avri Doria: .org is also avaialble. Avri Doria: no it is not. it is parked Avri Doria: sure fact to face good. Avri Doria: face to face rather. though fact to face might be god Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Thanks Thomas Chuck Gomes: Thanks Thomas. Mary Wong: Thanks! Gisella Gruber-White: Thank you all ----------------- Gisella Gruber ICANN Policy Staff in support of GNSO Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: gisella.gruber@xxxxxxxxx Tel: +44 7545 334 360 Skype ID: gisella.gw One World, One Internet Attachment:
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