Re: [gnso-igo-ingo] RE: MP3 IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group - 13 February 2013

[Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Chuck,

Thank you for notifying us.

Kindest regards,

Nathalie

Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Feb 2013, at 02:14, "Gomes, Chuck" 
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Note that I am scheduled to be at the airport before boarding a plane during 
this call.  I will try to participate on the call for at least part of the 
meeting if possible but likely will not be able to participate for the entire 
call.

Chuck

From: owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-igo-ingo@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gisella Gruber
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:04 PM
To: GNSO IGO INGO
Cc: GNSO Secretariats
Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] MP3 IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development Process 
(PDP) Working Group - 13 February 2013


Dear All,

The next call for the IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development Process (PDP) 
Working Group is scheduled on Wednesday 20 February at 17:00 UTC.

Please find the MP3 recording of the IGO-INGO Protections Policy Development 
Process (PDP) Working Group teleconference held on Wednesday 13 February 2013 
at 1900 UTC at:

http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-20130213-en.mp3

On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#feb

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master 
Calendar page:
http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/


Attendees:
Iliya Bazlyankov – RrSG
Jim Bikoff – IPC/IOC
Avri Doria – NCSG
Chuck Gomes - RySG
Alan Greenberg - ALAC
Catherine Gribbin - Red Cross
Stephane Hankins - NCSG
David Heasley - IPC/IOC
Evan Lebovitch - ALAC
Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC/IOC
Christopher Rassi - Red Cross
Thomas Rickert – NCA –Working group chair
Greg Shatan - IPC
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit - ISO
Mary Wong - NCUC
Mason Cole - GNSO Council vice chair - RrSG
Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP
Elizabeth Finberg - RySG
Lanre Ajayi - NCA
Debra Hughes - NPOC

Apologies:
Robin Gross
Wolfgang Kleinwachter

ICANN Staff:
Brian Peck
Berry Cobb
Gisella Gruber


** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

Thank you.
Kind regards,
Gisella
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Adobe Chat transcript for 13 February 2013:

Berry Cobb: Welcome to the 13 FEB 2013 IGO-INGO Conference call.

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Hi all, Kiran, Jim and David are here and 
on the phone.

Gisella Gruber-White: Kiran - would you be so kind as to confirm David's surname

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Heasley!  Sorry, I was a minute too late 
on that one.

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Thanks Gisella

Gisella Gruber-White: Thank you

Avri Doria: So we are still without an answer on International law?

Gisella Gruber-White: Debra Hughes has joined the call

Gisella Gruber-White: Osvaldo Novoa has joined the call

Osvaldo Novoa: Hi All, Sorry I'm late

Evan Leibovitch: +1 Avri

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): +1 Thomas

Alan Greenberg: Am I the only one with a big blank area in the middle of the 
window Berry is sharing??

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): I am experiencing that as well Alan

Gisella Gruber-White: Same here

Mary Wong: If u stare really, really hard,  you can see a white rabbit :) :)

Evan Leibovitch: Thank you very much for this work. This is the kind of hard 
evidence that helps establish whether abuse is real or imagined

Evan Leibovitch: (of course there are some grey areas, such as the judgement of 
whether a monetizing squatter constitutes "abuse" or "harm"

Evan Leibovitch: (the yellow sqares on the chart)

Greg Shatan: That doesn't seem like much of a gray area to me.

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): +1 Greg

Evan Leibovitch: Is to me.

Greg Shatan: Remind me to monetize 
evanleibovitch.com<http://evanleibovitch.com> .

Evan Leibovitch: you're welcome to it

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): prohibition by law is pretty black and 
white to us.

Evan Leibovitch: IThen use the law.

Evan Leibovitch: Actually, Greg. evanleibovitch.* will be unbought by me in any 
new gTLDs. You're wlecome to them too.

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): The law need not only be applied 
reactively.

Greg Shatan: No, thanks.  I don't want to break the law.

Alan Greenberg: I know they extracted lots of money from not-for-profit 
universities.

Greg Shatan: This is supposed to be a self-regulatory body, among other things. 
 UDRP was created not because there was no law to enforce., but because it was 
in the best interests of Internet stakeholders to have a cost-effective 
mechanism to deal with domain name infringement issues and to forestall costly 
potential litigation that might have had uncertain and far-reaching 
consequences.

Greg Shatan: Not the Martlet?!

Evan Leibovitch: I have no problem with IGOs and INGOs having access to URS and 
UDRP. It's asking for broader protections -- ones not even available for 
trandemark holders -- that is at issue

Evan Leibovitch: +1 Alan

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): +1 Thomas

Evan Leibovitch: +1 Greg

Avri Doria: i hate the name MRNLCH

Avri Doria: but i am ok with the idea

Evan Leibovitch: I thought we were not talking implementation?

Avri Doria: Humanitarian Organization Clearing House?

Evan Leibovitch: Do yopu want me to speak to it more?

Avri Doria: Special Organization Clearing House

Avri Doria: Modified RPMs is something I think could be 'sold' to my 
constituency/SG.  blocking is not.  (caveats on the fact that I have not tried 
to make the sale yett, and thius am only speaking personally)

Osvaldo Novoa: All, sorry but I have to leave for another meeting.  Best regards

Greg Shatan: IGOTCHA = International Governmental (and Nongovernmental) 
Organization Clearing House Annex

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): a very enthusiastic +1 to IGOTCHA Greg

Avri Doria: I have to admit IGOTCHA sound appropriate.

Berry Cobb: http://www.igotcha.com/

Avri Doria: LOL

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): awww man.  back to the drawing board.

Avri Doria: .org is also avaialble.

Avri Doria: no it is not.  it is parked

Avri Doria: sure fact to face good.

Avri Doria: face to face rather.  though fact to face might be god

Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Thanks Thomas

Chuck Gomes: Thanks Thomas.

Mary Wong: Thanks!

Gisella Gruber-White: Thank you all
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