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RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Background on New Issues: Email Voting and Procedural Waivers
- To: "'Thomas Rickert'" <rickert@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Julie Hedlund'" <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Background on New Issues: Email Voting and Procedural Waivers
- From: "Ron Andruff" <randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:05:10 -0500
Thanks to Thomas, Anne and others for fleshing this issue out in advance of our
meeting 9 days from now in BA. I would ask all members to give this matter
some thought and bring their comments to the list as well.
Looking forward to seeing you all in BA shortly.
Kind regards,
RA
Ron Andruff
RNA Partners
<http://www.rnapartners.com> www.rnapartners.com
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[mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas Rickert
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 07:04
To: Julie Hedlund
Cc: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx; Cover, Cynthia
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Background on New Issues: Email Voting
and Procedural Waivers
All,
with respect to the question of waivers, I guess there is a comparable scenario
in corporate law that may be useful. Procedural requirements such as invitation
periods or other formal requirements for invitations to shareholders' meetings
can be waived only on condition that the waiver is supported unanimously.
For our scenario that could mean that a waiver would only be possible if all
Councillors unanimously support it. That would give the Council flexibility to
take action on motions that are undisputed, but where i.e. the motions deadline
has been missed.
On the other hand, where a Councillor is not in a position to take action, e.g.
because he or she could not discuss the matter sufficiently with the respective
group, the Councillor would not support the waiver and then the waiver cannot
be granted and the situation would remain as it is today.
Thanks,
Thomas
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Am 01.11.2013 um 14:32 schrieb Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx> >:
Thank you Anne. Those are all important points. I think you are right that
there could be a lot of variables to consider with respect to waivers.
Best regards,
Julie
From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne < <mailto:AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx> AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:18 PM
To: Julie Hedlund < <mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx> julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>,
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Cc: "Cover, Cynthia" < <mailto:CCover@xxxxxxxxxx> CCover@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Background on New Issues: Email Voting and Procedural Waivers
Thanks Julie – very helpful. One of the issues that is problematic in relation
to the second task is that a Councilor won’t know in advance of the meeting
whether a requirement will be waived or not and thus may not have had time to
address the issue(s) with his/her constituency or stakeholder group. Multiple
late motions would present a large problem in relation to any given meeting. (
As to motions, it seems the ten calendar day advance notice has been working
well in terms of the ability to brief stakeholders and receive input prior to
GNSO Council meetings. )
We should likely look at several different types of situations that might make
a waiver procedure desirable. Those who have been or are sitting on GNSO
Council now may be good resources for suggestions as to various situations
where waiver might be appropriate.
Anne
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From: Julie Hedlund [ <mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:58 PM
To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Cover, Cynthia
Subject: Re: Background on New Issues: Email Voting and Procedural Waivers
Dear Anne,
As the Council noted in Durban during its wrap up meeting, the current
procedures do not include a process for the Council to hold a vote outside of a
meeting, although they do allow absentee voting for certain votes and under
certain conditions, but only follow a meeting during which a vote was taken.
Please see Section 4.0 Voting in the GNSO Council Operating Procedures (page
11) at: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>
http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf. Also, the
language in this section presumes that a vote is taking place at a meeting.
For example, Section 4.1 Quorum says, "In order for the GNSO Council to
initiate a vote, a quorum must be present." The word "present" implies
presence at a meeting. Section 4.2 Voting Thresholds says, "For all votes
taken, the number of eligible voters in each House shall be fixed to the number
of seats allocated in the Bylaws (a.k.a. the denominator) and is not affected
by the number of members present or absent at the meeting [emphasis added] in
which the motion or other action is initiated."
With respect to waiving requirements, as the Council noted there are no
provisions in the procedures. One of the issues noted by the Council in
Durban, for example, was that it could not consider a motion that was submitted
after the deadline for submitting reports and motions. Section 3.3 Notice of
Meetings states, "Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council
for inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than 23h59
Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day, 10 calendardays before the GNSO
Council meeting." There is no language in this section that allows the Council
to make an exception to this notice requirement. Moreover, there is no general
statement in the procedures that allows the Council to waive its procedures or
as Jonathan noted below under which "formal council procedure can be bypassed
in the event that there is no objection from the council."
I hope this is helpful, but please let me know if you have additional questions.
Best regards,
Julie
From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne < <mailto:AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx> AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:23 PM
To: Julie Hedlund < <mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx> julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>,
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Cc: "Cover, Cynthia" < <mailto:CCover@xxxxxxxxxx> CCover@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Background on New Issues: Email Voting and Procedural Waivers
Thanks Julie. I will be coming in over Adobe from Miami Beach (INTA
Leadership) on November 16. ( For some reason I had an SCI call on my calendar
yesterday, but nobody was there so my mistake.)
Regarding the two new items, can you provide us with the EXISTING rules on
(1)Voting and (2) Waiving requirements in the Operating Procedures?
Thanks and congrats to the Charter team on the approval of the new Charter!
Anne
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mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:48 AM
To: <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx> gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Background on New Issues: Email Voting and
Procedural Waivers
Dear SCI members,
In our last meeting on 08 October Ron Andruff suggested it would be helpful to
frame the two new issues the GNSO Council has asked the SCI to study — email
voting and procedural waivers -- in the format of the questions listed in the
charter. In addition, for future requests as Mikey O'Conner suggested staff
will create an online form that requesters can complete when they have issues
to bring to the SCI. The format in the charter is:
1. Which group do you represent? (E.g. Council, WG.)
2. To which rules or processes do you refer?
3. Please outline the problems
4. What specific changes do you propose to address the identified problems?
5. Do you have any additional suggestion for making the rules/processes
easier to administer?
In particular, the GNSO Council requested that the SCI should take up these two
new issues in its Wrap Up meeting in Durban on 17 July. Accordingly, I've
reviewed the transcript from that meeting and pulled out the relevant
information from the brief discussion of these topics. I've put that
information into the form of the questions from the charter. Please see the
information below and also on the wiki at:
<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/16+November+2013>
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/16+November+2013. These issues are
on the agenda for the SCI's next meeting, which will be held face-to-face in
Buenos Aires on Saturday, 16 November from 0700-0845 local time. The GNSO
Secretariat will send out a notice and reminders for the meeting.
Best Regards,
Julie
Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Email voting:
1. Which group do you represent? GNSO Council
2. To which rules or processes do you refer? Voting
3. Please outline the problems: The Council does not have a mechanism to
conduct votes outside of a meeting.
4. What specific changes do you propose to address the identified
problems? The SCI should consider whether and how the Council could vote
outside of a meeting and under what circumstances. Quote from Jonathan
Robinson in the Council transcript at the Wrap Up Meeting in Durban on 18 July
2013: "So I wanted - an issue I wanted us to consider maybe giving to the SCI
and then to the group or to a committee to look at is I’d like to rethink about
whether potentially voting by email or something like that is a possibility? I
know we’ve looked at it on and off over the years.…And if that would help speed
things along it would be great to just look at that issue in just maybe we
can’t do it first time around obviously but for future..." He raised this
issue because the Council was in the process of scheduling a special meeting in
August to conduct a vote.
5. Do you have any additional suggestion for making the rules/processes
easier to administer? Voting by email could in some circumstances enable the
Council to avoid having to schedule a special meeting for a vote that has to
occur quickly.
Waivers and/or Exceptions to the GNSO Council Operating Procedures
1. Which group do you represent? GNSO Council
2. To which rules or processes do you refer? Submitting a motion and
possibly other procedures
3. Please outline the problems: The Council does not have a mechanism to
waive or invoke an exception to and of its operating procedures. An example is
whether the deadline for submitting motions could be waived in certain
circumstances. Quote from Jonathan Robinson in the transcript at the Wrap Up
Meeting in Durban on 18 July 2013: "And essentially I wasn’t empowered as chair
by our rulebook to allow that motion to be put on the table even if technically
although we have done it by precedent and prior practice, even if no one
objected from the council I didn’t really - there isn’t really device in the
rulebook to allow that to take place. So I personally I think that’s an area we
should look at is the - when and under what circumstances - formal council
procedure can be bypassed in the event that there is no objection from the
council?"
4. What specific changes do you propose to address the identified
problems? The SCI should consider whether and how the Council could vote
outside of a meeting and under what circumstances.
5. Do you have any additional suggestion for making the rules/processes
easier to administer? A waiver mechanism could allow the Council to consider a
motion or document after the deadline of notice/submission to the Council has
passed.
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