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Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

  • To: "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx>, "'Rudi Vansnick'" <rudi.vansnick@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
  • From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 21:21:43 +0000

Anne,

In the past we have discussed and confirmed Chair/Vice Chair
nominations/volunteers during a meeting.  So, we could put the position of
the Vice Chair and Rudi's offer first on the agenda for Saturday's meeting,
if you agree.

Kind regards,
Julie

From:  <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date:  Friday, June 19, 2015 5:07 PM
To:  'Rudi Vansnick' <rudi.vansnick@xxxxxxx>
Cc:  Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx"
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx"
<gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject:  RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
June 2015

> Fantastic news Rudi ­ very helpful.  Yesterday my plane had to make an
> emergency landing and for a few hours I thought I would not be able to make it
> before Saturday morning.   Very good to know there will now be a Vice Chair in
> place.
>  
> Will staff please advise the procedure for making this official ­ assuming
> there are no other volunteers?
>  
> Anne
>  
> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
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>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:59 AM
> To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne
> Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx; gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx; Julie
> Hedlund
> Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
> June 2015
> Importance: High
>  
> Dear Anne,
> 
> Dear all,
> 
>  
> 
> As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I¹m willing to
> jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I¹m
> having some more free time to make available for this task.
> 
>  
> 
> See you all in BA.
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Rudi Vansnick
> 
> Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
> 
> www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org>
> 
>  
> 
> rudi.vansnick@xxxxxxxx
> 
> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
> 
> Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
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>  
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>  
>> 
>> Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx> het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Anne,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which
>> also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting.  I'm just checking
>> to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the
>> list.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM
>> To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx"
>> <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
>> June 2015
>> 
>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone.  I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together
>>> to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable
>>> view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10
>>> day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old
>>> language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this
>>> Saturday morning¹s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>>  
>>> <image001.gif>
>>> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
>>> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
>>> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
>>> (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
>>> AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
>>> To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Cc: gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June
>>> 2015
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements
>>> Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015:
>>> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
>>> 
>>> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun
>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun>
>>> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Attendees:
>>> 
>>> Anne Aikman Scalese ­ IPC ­ Primary - Chair
>>> 
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ­ ISPCP - Primary
>>> 
>>> Rudi Vansnick ­ NPOC - Primary
>>> 
>>> Amr Elsadr ­ NCUC - Primary
>>> 
>>> Avri Doria ­ NCSG ­ Primary
>>> 
>>> Lori Schulman ­ IPC - Alternate
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Apologies: 
>>> 
>>> None
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ICANN Staff:
>>> 
>>> Julie Hedlund
>>> 
>>> Mary Wong
>>> 
>>> Terri Agnew
>>> 
>>>  ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Terri Agnew  
>>> Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015
>>> 
>>>    Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
>>> 
>>>   Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
>>> 
>>>   Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
>>> 
>>>   Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
>>> 
>>>   Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
>>> 
>>>   Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the
>>> resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
>>> 
>>>   Amr 
>>> Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2:
>>> "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating
>>> Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in
>>> addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for
>>> consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?
>>> 
>>>   Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI
>>> members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most
>>> were ok with it.
>>> 
>>>  Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked
>>> the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day
>>> waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could
>>> indefinitely be resubmitted ?
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should
>>> happen??
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many
>>> times a motion may be resubmitted.
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted
>>> is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did
>>> actually talk a great deal about this. :)
>>> 
>>>   Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great
>>> discussions.
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
>>> 
>>>   Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the
>>> discussion never stuck.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took
>>> place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to
>>> have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not
>>> sure I got it.
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the
>>> direction 
>>> 
>>>   Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
>>> 
>>>   Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking
>>> them to draft.
>>> 
>>>  Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving
>>> anything.
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos
>>> Aires.
>>> 
>>>   Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting
>>> point only and a good thing to react o.
>>> 
>>>   Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
>>> 
>>>   Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should
>>> be provided.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to
>>> the list
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI
>>> meeting remotely.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I
>>> won't be there.
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
>>> 
>>>   Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
>>> 
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