RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

["Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Absolutely - let's address this first.
Anne

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From: Julie Hedlund [mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:22 PM
To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Rudi Vansnick'
Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx; gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 
2015

Anne,

In the past we have discussed and confirmed Chair/Vice Chair 
nominations/volunteers during a meeting.  So, we could put the position of the 
Vice Chair and Rudi's offer first on the agenda for Saturday's meeting, if you 
agree.

Kind regards,
Julie

From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:07 PM
To: 'Rudi Vansnick' <rudi.vansnick@xxxxxxx<mailto:rudi.vansnick@xxxxxxx>>
Cc: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:terri.agnew@xxxxxxxxx>>, 
"gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>" 
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>>, 
"gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>" 
<gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>>, Julie Hedlund 
<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 
2015

Fantastic news Rudi - very helpful.  Yesterday my plane had to make an 
emergency landing and for a few hours I thought I would not be able to make it 
before Saturday morning.   Very good to know there will now be a Vice Chair in 
place.

Will staff please advise the procedure for making this official - assuming 
there are no other volunteers?

Anne

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From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:59 AM
To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne
Cc: Terri Agnew; 
gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>; 
gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>; Julie Hedlund
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 
2015
Importance: High

Dear Anne,
Dear all,

As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I'm willing to 
jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I'm having 
some more free time to make available for this task.

See you all in BA.

Best regards,

Rudi Vansnick
Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
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Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund 
<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>> het volgende 
geschreven:

Hi Anne,

We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also 
is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting.  I'm just checking to see 
if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list.

Thanks,
Julie

From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:AAikman@xxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM
To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:terri.agnew@xxxxxxxxx>>, 
"gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>" 
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>>
Cc: "gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>" 
<gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 
2015

Hi everyone.  I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to 
put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view 
toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver 
rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language 
drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning's 
meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.

Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
Thank you,
Anne

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 [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
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Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements 
Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: 
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun
(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)

Attendees:
Anne Aikman Scalese - IPC - Primary - Chair
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP - Primary
Rudi Vansnick - NPOC - Primary
Amr Elsadr - NCUC - Primary
Avri Doria - NCSG - Primary
Lori Schulman - IPC - Alternate

Apologies:
None

ICANN Staff:
Julie Hedlund
Mary Wong
Terri Agnew
 ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri Agnew
Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015
   Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
  Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
  Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
  Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.
  Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
  Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
  Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the 
resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
  Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
  Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
  Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted 
motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the 
Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed 
in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council 
under this Section 3.3.2."
  Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?
  Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI members 
were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most were ok 
with it.
 Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the 
council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
  Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day 
waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
  Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could 
indefinitely be resubmitted ?
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen??
  Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
  Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
  Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times 
a motion may be resubmitted.
  Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is 
governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
  Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
  Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did 
actually talk a great deal about this. :)
  Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great 
discussions.
  Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
  Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the 
discussion never stuck.
  Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took 
place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
  Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have 
different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I 
got it.
  Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the 
direction
  Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
  Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking 
them to draft.
 Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving 
anything.
  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos Aires.
  Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting 
point only and a good thing to react o.
  Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.
  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
  Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
  Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
  Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
  Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
  Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
  Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be 
provided.
  Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the 
list
  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well.
  Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
  Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting 
remotely.
  Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
  Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't 
be there.
  Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
  Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
  Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
  Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.




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