[gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 of the SCI meeting - 24 March 2016

[Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear All,

Please find the MP3 recording for the Standing Committee on Improvements 
Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 24 March 2016.

MP3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-24mar16-en.mp3

Thank you.

Kind regards,

Terri

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Subject: [gnso-secs] attendance of the SCI meeting - 24 March 2016

Dear All,

Due to technical issues the mp3 will be sent shortly. Please see attendance 
below for the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on 
Thursday, 24 March 2016:

On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#mar



(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)



Attendees:

Amr Elsadr - NCUC - Primary

Angie Graves - BC - Primary

Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC - Primary - Vice Chair

Sara Bockey - RrSG - Primary

Lawrence Olawale-Roberts - BC - Alternate

Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP - Primary

Martin Pablo Valent - NPOC - Alternate



Apologies:

Stefania Milan - NCSG - Primary
Rudi Vansnick - NPOC -Primary -Chair



ICANN Staff:

Julie Hedlund

Mary Wong
Glen de Saint Géry

Terri Agnew
 ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri Agnew
Adobe Chat Transcript 24 March 2016

   Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation 
(SCI) meeting held on 24 March 2016

  Amr Elsadr:Hi all.

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:Hello Everyone

  Mary Wong:Ry SG is not represented.

  Amr Elsadr:Looks like we're missing RySG, NCSG and NPOC.

  Amr Elsadr:Yes..., no NCAs either.

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:or maybe dial out to them

  Terri Agnew:as a reminder, please mute when not speaking

  Terri Agnew:Hi Lawrence, op will dial out to you in a moment

  Julie Hedlund:All: I have unsynced the document so you can move it.

  Mary Wong:The consensus call (when the time comes) will also take place on 
the mailing list, and last approx 2 weeks (per usual practice).

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:@Terri thanks, am dialing in and waiting for approval

  Terri Agnew:@Lawrence - advising the op

  Mary Wong:If this suggestion is to be adopted, perhaps consider a time limit 
for that appointment?

  Mary Wong:E.g. by the time of the next Council meeting at the latest?

  Angie Graves:sorry--am in a loud place

  Angie Graves:You addresed my point

  Angie Graves:Thank you.

  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: That sounds OK by me. What if (and this is very unlikely) 
the Councl fails to elect a chair during a second election round?

  Mary Wong:@Amr, I meant to have an interim from the vacant House, not the 
duration of the interim appointment

  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Apologies, I'm not sure I understand the question.

  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Understood. I meant to ask that if the deadline to appoint 
an interim is over, but the council persists in failing to elect a chair. This 
may mean an additional 30 days.

  Amr Elsadr:Would make sense to extend the interim appointment election, 
wouldn't it?

  Mary Wong:@Anne, yes, exactly

  Amr Elsadr:Sorry. My last comment made no sense. :)

  Amr Elsadr:I meant that it would make sense to extend the deadline by which 
an interim can be appointed.

  Mary Wong:@Amr, haha no worries. My suggestion is meant to not delay Council 
biz further  by having NO chair and NO second VC.

  Amr Elsadr:OK. Thanks for the context Mary. That sounds good to me.

  Mary Wong:@Anne, that seems logical too (apply deadline for interim 
appointment to Scenario 3 too).

  Amr Elsadr:I believe the bylaws (30 day provision) only applies to Council 
chair elections, not VC appointments. Is that right?

  Mary Wong:@Amr, yes

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Sorry I got disconnected. Connectivity is poor, even voice 
line. I try to follow the chat as good as I can

  Amr Elsadr:Welcome WUK.

  Julie Hedlund:@Amr: Yes, I think that is right.

  Amr Elsadr:@WUK: Welcome back. I'll warn you though, I'm not making much 
sense in the chat today. :(

  Terri Agnew:Wolf-Ulrich is only on AC at the moment

  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Sounds good.

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:can you shed some light on this

  Mary Wong:So Scenario 4 would kick in if the deadline for interim 
appointments (e.g. by the next Council meeting) is NOT met.

  Julie Hedlund:@Mary: That's my understanding.

  Mary Wong:And under Scenario 4, the "last resort" interm Chair (the 
non-voting NCA) would be interim Chair until the Chair is elected conclusively, 
which under the Procedures would be approx  a max of 2 months out (normally).

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:i think that flies

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:i dont see a problem with an interim Vice chair 
running for a vice chair

  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Yes. VCs are appointed/selected by a House, not elected.

  Angie Graves:Thank you for the SCENARIO 3 note

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben 2:Under scenario 4 there shouldn't be a break in council 
business until VCs are appointed or the non-voting NCA takes place

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Martin Silva

  Julie Hedlund:@Amr: What if we just strike "non-voting NCA"?

  Mary Wong:@Wolf-Ulrich, that is why staff suggested having a deadline for the 
House(s) to make the interim appointment, i.e. by the time of the next Council 
meeting.

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:the Non-voting NCA presently by the GNSO OP IS 
eligible to run for council chair, so if same were to hold office for a short 
while to run an election it should surfice

  Amr Elsadr:@Julie: I would be OK with that, but am really just wondering 
whether or not there is some sort of conflict. I'm not actually sure.

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben 2:why not appoint interim VCs on the spot, meaning 
directly following the meeting where the chair election failed? I guess all SG 
leading reps should be available to assist...

  Amr Elsadr:@Lawrence: You are correct, but we are talking about vice-chair, 
not chair. I don't think there are limitations on that either, but should 
probably check.

  Mary Wong:@Wolf-Ulrich, maybe that can be phrased as the ideal scenario, but 
failing that, have a maximum deadline? Just in case.

  Anne Aikman-Scalese (IPC):@ Wolf-Ulrich - House may not be able to agree that 
quickly as to who should serve

  Amr Elsadr:Like I said, I see no problem with the non-voting NCA being 
appointed as an interim chair under scenario 4. It's scenario 3 that I'm 
wondering about.

  Martin Silva:Hi all, struggling with a weird connection here but I think I'll 
manage to be on for the rest of the meeting.

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben 2:hanks Mary, agree

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben 2:T...

  Julie Hedlund:@Amr: The Procedures are silent on NCAs and Vice Chairs.  They 
say, "a.               Each house shall select a Council Vice-Chair from within 
its respective house.."

  Julie Hedlund:That;s all.

  Mary Wong:@Amr, wouldn't that be up to the House?

  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: a non-voting NCA is not from within a house.

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie. That's helpful.

  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: +1

  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Yes. I believe that is best.

  Mary Wong:The only thing staff can think of is perhaps this is the kind of 
situation where having a neutral non-voting person may be preferable?

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:+1 i agree also

  Sara Bockey:@Anne, I agree as well.

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:that the non voting NCA should be left out.

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:of option 3

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:senerio 4 would serve as a stimulant to ensuring 
that election faliure does not get to this point

  Amr Elsadr:Agree with Mary.

  Amr Elsadr:Apologies. I missed pretty much everything Mary just said. Had 
dropped off the call.

  Amr Elsadr:been dropped off.

  Amr Elsadr:Back now.

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:Once an election fails and it is officially 
announced (which is a 2 day time frame) , tthe process to resheduling and 
conducting another election should proceed and be in place in the time frame we 
agree

  Sara Bockey:I like the idea of a prescribe timeline to make them make a 
decision sooner rather than later, but I'm not familiar with how Council works 
...but that is my inclination

  Amr Elsadr:Well...

  Amr Elsadr:Practical. :)

  Amr Elsadr:Some of those agrees are old.

  Angie Graves:Mine was old

  Amr Elsadr:How about a deadline of one week before the following Council 
meeting?

  Mary Wong:10 calendar days?

  Julie Hedlund:@Lawrence -- there has only been one failed election -- in 
Dublin.  The Vice Chairs were continuing and handled the election and business.

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:great

  Amr Elsadr:In Dublin, the NCPH managed to reach some decisions before the 
week was over.

  Mary Wong:Sure, Anne

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:thanks for that julie

  Julie Hedlund:@ Anne: We are probably better off holding the call at the 
usual time.

  Amr Elsadr:Can we also continue this on-list? Try to take advantage of time 
between calls?

  Julie Hedlund:Rather than a Doodle.

  Julie Hedlund:@Amr: Yes, on the list.

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:so it looks like a 2 week time frame could work out 
well

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.

  Martin Silva:Thank you!

  Angie Graves:thanks

  Sara Bockey:thank you all

  Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:thanks for the time, bye now

  Martin Silva:bye bye

  Mary Wong:Thanks all