Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] attendance of the SCI meeting - 24 March 2016

[Karel Douglas <douglaskarel@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear All,

Please excuse my non-attendance as I was required to go to Court. I will
peruse the meeting notes.

regards

Karel

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Due to technical issues the mp3 will be sent shortly. Please see
> attendance below for the Standing Committee on Improvements
> Implementation meeting held on *Thursday, 24 March 2016: *
>
> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#mar
>
>
>
> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
>
>
>
> *Attendees:*
>
> Amr Elsadr – NCUC - Primary
>
> Angie Graves – BC – Primary
>
> Anne Aikman-Scalese – IPC – Primary – Vice Chair
>
> Sara Bockey – RrSG - Primary
>
> Lawrence Olawale-Roberts – BC – Alternate
>
> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben – ISPCP – Primary
>
> Martin Pablo Valent – NPOC - Alternate
>
>
>
> *Apologies: *
>
> Stefania Milan – NCSG – Primary
>
> Rudi Vansnick – NPOC –Primary –Chair
>
>
>
> *ICANN Staff:*
>
> Julie Hedlund
>
> Mary Wong
>
> Glen de Saint Géry
>
> Terri Agnew
>
>  ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Terri Agnew
>
> *Adobe Chat Transcript **24 March 2016*
>
>    Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Standing Committee on Improvements
> Implementation (SCI) meeting held on 24 March 2016
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Hi all.
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:Hello Everyone
>
>   Mary Wong:Ry SG is not represented.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Looks like we're missing RySG, NCSG and NPOC.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Yes..., no NCAs either.
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:or maybe dial out to them
>
>   Terri Agnew:as a reminder, please mute when not speaking
>
>   Terri Agnew:Hi Lawrence, op will dial out to you in a moment
>
>   Julie Hedlund:All: I have unsynced the document so you can move it.
>
>   Mary Wong:The consensus call (when the time comes) will also take place
> on the mailing list, and last approx 2 weeks (per usual practice).
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:@Terri thanks, am dialing in and waiting for
> approval
>
>   Terri Agnew:@Lawrence - advising the op
>
>   Mary Wong:If this suggestion is to be adopted, perhaps consider a time
> limit for that appointment?
>
>   Mary Wong:E.g. by the time of the next Council meeting at the latest?
>
>   Angie Graves:sorry--am in a loud place
>
>   Angie Graves:You addresed my point
>
>   Angie Graves:Thank you.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: That sounds OK by me. What if (and this is very
> unlikely) the Councl fails to elect a chair during a second election round?
>
>   Mary Wong:@Amr, I meant to have an interim from the vacant House, not
> the duration of the interim appointment
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Apologies, I'm not sure I understand the question.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Understood. I meant to ask that if the deadline to
> appoint an interim is over, but the council persists in failing to elect a
> chair. This may mean an additional 30 days.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Would make sense to extend the interim appointment election,
> wouldn't it?
>
>   Mary Wong:@Anne, yes, exactly
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Sorry. My last comment made no sense. :)
>
>   Amr Elsadr:I meant that it would make sense to extend the deadline by
> which an interim can be appointed.
>
>   Mary Wong:@Amr, haha no worries. My suggestion is meant to not delay
> Council biz further  by having NO chair and NO second VC.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:OK. Thanks for the context Mary. That sounds good to me.
>
>   Mary Wong:@Anne, that seems logical too (apply deadline for interim
> appointment to Scenario 3 too).
>
>   Amr Elsadr:I believe the bylaws (30 day provision) only applies to
> Council chair elections, not VC appointments. Is that right?
>
>   Mary Wong:@Amr, yes
>
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Sorry I got disconnected. Connectivity is poor, even
> voice line. I try to follow the chat as good as I can
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Welcome WUK.
>
>   Julie Hedlund:@Amr: Yes, I think that is right.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@WUK: Welcome back. I'll warn you though, I'm not making
> much sense in the chat today. :(
>
>   Terri Agnew:Wolf-Ulrich is only on AC at the moment
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Sounds good.
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:can you shed some light on this
>
>   Mary Wong:So Scenario 4 would kick in if the deadline for interim
> appointments (e.g. by the next Council meeting) is NOT met.
>
>   Julie Hedlund:@Mary: That's my understanding.
>
>   Mary Wong:And under Scenario 4, the "last resort" interm Chair (the
> non-voting NCA) would be interim Chair until the Chair is elected
> conclusively, which under the Procedures would be approx  a max of 2 months
> out (normally).
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:i think that flies
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:i dont see a problem with an interim Vice chair
> running for a vice chair
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Yes. VCs are appointed/selected by a House, not
> elected.
>
>   Angie Graves:Thank you for the SCENARIO 3 note
>
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben 2:Under scenario 4 there shouldn't be a break in
> council business until VCs are appointed or the non-voting NCA takes place
>
>   Terri Agnew:Welcome Martin Silva
>
>   Julie Hedlund:@Amr: What if we just strike "non-voting NCA"?
>
>   Mary Wong:@Wolf-Ulrich, that is why staff suggested having a deadline
> for the House(s) to make the interim appointment, i.e. by the time of the
> next Council meeting.
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:the Non-voting NCA presently by the GNSO OP IS
> eligible to run for council chair, so if same were to hold office for a
> short while to run an election it should surfice
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@Julie: I would be OK with that, but am really just
> wondering whether or not there is some sort of conflict. I'm not actually
> sure.
>
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben 2:why not appoint interim VCs on the spot, meaning
> directly following the meeting where the chair election failed? I guess all
> SG leading reps should be available to assist...
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@Lawrence: You are correct, but we are talking about
> vice-chair, not chair. I don't think there are limitations on that either,
> but should probably check.
>
>   Mary Wong:@Wolf-Ulrich, maybe that can be phrased as the ideal
> scenario, but failing that, have a maximum deadline? Just in case.
>
>   Anne Aikman-Scalese (IPC):@ Wolf-Ulrich - House may not be able to agree
> that quickly as to who should serve
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Like I said, I see no problem with the non-voting NCA being
> appointed as an interim chair under scenario 4. It's scenario 3 that I'm
> wondering about.
>
>   Martin Silva:Hi all, struggling with a weird connection here but I think
> I’ll manage to be on for the rest of the meeting.
>
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben 2:hanks Mary, agree
>
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben 2:T...
>
>   Julie Hedlund:@Amr: The Procedures are silent on NCAs and Vice Chairs.
> They say, "a.               Each house shall select a Council Vice-Chair
> from within its respective house.."
>
>   Julie Hedlund:That;s all.
>
>   Mary Wong:@Amr, wouldn't that be up to the House?
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: a non-voting NCA is not from within a house.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie. That's helpful.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: +1
>
>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Yes. I believe that is best.
>
>   Mary Wong:The only thing staff can think of is perhaps this is the kind
> of situation where having a neutral non-voting person may be preferable?
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:+1 i agree also
>
>   Sara Bockey:@Anne, I agree as well.
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:that the non voting NCA should be left out.
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:of option 3
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:senerio 4 would serve as a stimulant to
> ensuring that election faliure does not get to this point
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Agree with Mary.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Apologies. I missed pretty much everything Mary just said.
> Had dropped off the call.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:been dropped off.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Back now.
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:Once an election fails and it is officially
> announced (which is a 2 day time frame) , tthe process to resheduling and
> conducting another election should proceed and be in place in the time
> frame we agree
>
>   Sara Bockey:I like the idea of a prescribe timeline to make them make a
> decision sooner rather than later, but I'm not familiar with how Council
> works ...but that is my inclination
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Well...
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Practical. :)
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Some of those agrees are old.
>
>   Angie Graves:Mine was old
>
>   Amr Elsadr:How about a deadline of one week before the following Council
> meeting?
>
>   Mary Wong:10 calendar days?
>
>   Julie Hedlund:@Lawrence -- there has only been one failed election --
> in Dublin.  The Vice Chairs were continuing and handled the election and
> business.
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:great
>
>   Amr Elsadr:In Dublin, the NCPH managed to reach some decisions before
> the week was over.
>
>   Mary Wong:Sure, Anne
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:thanks for that julie
>
>   Julie Hedlund:@ Anne: We are probably better off holding the call at
> the usual time.
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Can we also continue this on-list? Try to take advantage of
> time between calls?
>
>   Julie Hedlund:Rather than a Doodle.
>
>   Julie Hedlund:@Amr: Yes, on the list.
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:so it looks like a 2 week time frame could work
> out well
>
>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.
>
>   Martin Silva:Thank you!
>
>   Angie Graves:thanks
>
>   Sara Bockey:thank you all
>
>   Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:thanks for the time, bye now
>
>   Martin Silva:bye bye
>
>   Mary Wong:Thanks all
>
>
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