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Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] GNSO Improvements - ALAC and Joint statements - comments requested

  • To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>, carlos aguirre <carlosaguirre62@xxxxxxxxxxx>, aheineman@xxxxxxxxxxxx, gnso-improvements-report-2008@xxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] GNSO Improvements - ALAC and Joint statements - comments requested
  • From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:38:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00)

Danny, Carlos and all,

  Carlos, it doesn't matter that such negotiations were
conducted or not.  It does matter that the users or
other stakeholders were not included in such negotiations
or at a minimum unable to comment and determine so that
it could be known as such supposed negotiations, if actually
conducted, meets with the interests of users and/or other
constituency members and/or their representatives.

  What is clear is that what was supposedly determined in
the ALAC and Joint statement does NOT meet with the interests
of a unmeasured consensus of the users and/or constituency
members and/or their representatives.  Ergo the Joint statement
does not even meet a rough consensus and is therefore bogus.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Apr 23, 2008 7:26 PM
>To: carlos aguirre <carlosaguirre62@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: 'At-Large Worldwide' <alac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 'NA Discuss' 
>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] GNSO Improvements - ALAC and Joint        
>Statements - comments requested
>Re-read the first two sentences written by ICANN
>"As you may recall, an Ad-Hoc Working Group on GNSO
>Improvements, with representatives of each RALO, has
>been working on a response to the public consultation
>on the Board Governance Committee¹s proposals for
>improvements to the GNSO.  As a part of that work, THE
>(*emphasis mine*) with various communities within the
>GNSO Community, including the Commercial and Business
>Users, Intellectual Property, Internet Service and
>Connectino Providers, and Non-Commercial Users
>Staff is saying that your group negotiated with the
>other constituencies.  
>Apparently, you are denying that claim.  
>So, who is speaking the truth?
>--- carlos aguirre <carlosaguirre62@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sorry Danny. please, when you inform about
>> something,  try to inform yourself first.
>> this group was wich made a GNSO improvement`s
>> document from ALAC, but not wich made a last joint
>> document with other constituencies neither negotiate
>> secretly nothing.
>> In fact, your atitude make me feel very upset. I
>> hope to have the opportunity to talk with you
>> personally in the next meeting.
>> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
>> abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina
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