RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Some definitions & concepts to inform our work

["Michael Collins" <mc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree that "account holder" is best description for this individual or 
entity. I would like our group to use it and its definition if there is no 
objection. Thanks.

Best regards,
Michael Collins


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:43 AM
To: Olof Nordling
Cc: 'IRTP B Mailing List'; 'Michele Neylon :: Blacknight'; James M. Bladel; 
Michael Collins
Subject: RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Some definitions & concepts to inform our work


Perhaps the term Account Holder is better. From our perspective, the
Account Holder may be authorized by the Registered Name Holder to accept
the Registration Agreement on their behalf. However, nowhere does the
Account Holder otherwise enter into the scheme of things except as
another possible contact for the Registrar to resolve certain issues. So
I suggest the following modified definitions:

1. REGISTRANT: The Registered Name Holder as defined in the RAA.

2. ACCOUNT HOLDER: The person or entity that has access to the
Registrar account and/or domain management system, and may have
accepted the Registration Agreement on behalf of the Registrant.
Note that this person or entity is often the same as that listed
as the "Registrant", but is not required to be.

3. CHANGE OF REGISTRANT: The Account Holder or Registrant assigns 
the domain name registration to another entity. This may include 
changing other contacts (Admin, Tech, Billing) but the focus here
is on the Registrant. Changes to WHOIS records that do not modify 
the identity of the Registrant do not constitute a Change Of 
Registrant.

4. CHANGE OF ACCOUNT: The Account Holder moves the domain name 
registration to another account at the same registrar without
changing the identity of the Registrant.

5. TRANSFER: The Registrant or Admin Contact authorizes transfer 
of the domain name registration to a different Registrar. This 
operation is defined and governed by the existing IRTP Consensus 
Policy.


Tim

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Subject: RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Some definitions & concepts to inform
our work
From: Olof Nordling <olof.nordling@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009 4:20 am
To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Michael Collins
<mc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "'IRTP B Mailing List'" <Gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx>, 
"'Michele Neylon :: Blacknight'" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>


James and all,
As I briefly mentioned during the call yesterday, I believe a clearer
connection to the registered name holder would be useful for your
definition of "SHOPPER or CUSTOMER". Perhaps like this: "The person or
entity that has access to the Registrar control system and is authorized
to use it on behalf the Registered Name Holder." 

Moreover, the last part in your definition ", and has accepted the
Registration Agreement" could (unintentionally?) confine the definition
to the Registered Name Holder, since that's the only one that can enter
the Registration Agreement according to RAA 3.7.7. ("Registrar shall
require all Registered Name Holders to enter into an electronic or paper
registration agreement with Registrar including at least.....") 

Thoughts on that?

BTW - could "REQUESTER" be a more transfer-specific alternative to
"SHOPPER or CUSTOMER"? 

Best regards
Olof

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James M. Bladel
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:11 PM
To: Michael Collins
Cc: 'IRTP B Mailing List'; 'Michele Neylon :: Blacknight'
Subject: RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Some definitions & concepts to inform
our work


Michael:

Yes, that's correct. For a retail registrar such as GoDaddy.com, the
SHOPPER is most often a natural person. But the mix could be
significantly different at a reseller or corporate registrar.

J.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Some definitions & concepts to inform
our work
From: "Michael Collins" <mc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, August 27, 2009 8:58 pm
To: "'James M. Bladel'" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Michele Neylon ::
Blacknight'" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "'IRTP B Mailing List'" <Gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx>

James,

In your proposal, can a customer or shopper be an entity (not an
individual)?

Best regards,
Michael Collins