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RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Some definitions & concepts to inform our work

  • To: "Chris Chaplow" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Some definitions & concepts to inform our work
  • From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:42:01 -0700

Chris and Team:

These are interesting concepts as well, but I think they may raise
additional complications and / or create confusion.

For example, while a RESELLER may be relevant in some situations, the
REGISTRAR is still ultimately responsible for managing the name and
handling the transfer.

And any discussion of the SERVICE PROVIDER must be strictly limited to
those scenarios in which they can (or should) play a role in the
transfer operation.  In fact, your statement that they  "offer(s) domain
name registration ... (without contracts with registrars or resellers)" 
How, specifically, is this achieved?  

And finally, if the SERVICE PROVIDER is occupying another (previously
defined) role, such as REGISTRANT, then we should focus on actions
conducted in that capacity, unless / until we can identify something
unique that this type of entity does with respect to transfers.

Thanks--

J.


   -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Some definitions & concepts to inform
 our work
 From: "Chris Chaplow" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Date: Sun, September 13, 2009 11:23 am
 To: <Gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx>
 
 Thanks Michael, I like  "account holder" is best description for this
individual or  entity. 
  
  
 I would also like to extend on two more players:
  
 RESELLER and SERVICE PROVIDER. They complicate the situation and are
mentioned in the SSAC reports. 
  
 One of the possible matrix of hijack situations is when a service
provider (eg. amateur web designer) becomes the account holder and the
registrant of the domain. The business does not realize that it does not
own the domain it paid for until it has a dispute with the service
provider. 
  
  
 RESELLER is an organization that offers domain name registration
services to a REGISTRANT under a reseller agreement with a REGISTRAR. 
  
 SERVICE PROVIDER is an organization that offers domain name
registration amongst other internet services to a client (without
contracts with registrars or resellers). The SERVICE PROVIDER may be the
ACCOUNT HOLDER, but acting on behalf of a client may be authorized by
their ‘service provider terms and conditions’ to accept the
Registration Agreement on the client’s behalf and become the
registered NAME HOLDER.    
 I appreciate this now introduces a ‘client’.  Anybody help develop
this further?
 I think the proxy name service becomes a service provider. 
  
 When there is no written ‘service provider terms and conditions’ it
becomes more difficult to establish the NAME HOLDER and hence a domain
hijack allegation.
  
 Chris Chaplow
 Managing Director
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