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Re: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Locks and Status codes
- To: "Gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx List" <Gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Locks and Status codes
- From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:08:39 +0000
On 7 Jul 2010, at 14:58, George Kirikos wrote:
>
> Hi Michele,
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
> <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I'd be very wary of forbidding locks completely - locks are one of the ways
>> of protecting registrants from slamming techniques used by the likes of DROA
>> etc
>
> I don't think anyone here is serious arguing for eliminating locks
> (well, I think Rob Hall raised the idea idly in Brussels, but that
> didn't make any sense to me; I think he just felt that EPP "auth info"
> codes were a "de facto" lock, but that's not entirely correct, as
> locks can be more granular than that). The argument is just about
> forced locks, against people's will.
>
> BTW, on a purely technical tangent that perhaps one of the
> registrars/registries can answer.
>
> (1) are the permissions at registries granular enough that they can
> restrict certain commands by IP address or other forms of
> authentication? e.g. 10.0.0.1 can only use the "add" function and
> "renew" functions (perhaps 10.0.0.1 is linked to a customer-facing
> website and is "less secure") whereas only 10.0.10.5 (heavily
> firewalled, on a different network infrastructure, etc. where there's
> manual involvement) can set/obtain "auth_info" codes or issue "ACK"
> for outgoing transfers or change name servers?
I don't think so, though I'll let someone else confirm
My understanding is that the EPP servers are accessible from certain IP ranges
with user / pass that have been setup. I'm not aware of any command specific
controls. There is, however, that option on some of the registry web interfaces
to a certain extent
The only exception to the above would be where a registry lock service is in
place - then EPP is no longer the key at all
>
> (2) Would it be possible/easy to add additional status codes that
> include variables? e.g. suppose there came a time that transfers
> became revocable (i.e. reversible, the nightmare ETRP somehow gets
> through). Is it possible for the WHOIS to display lines that
> supplement the current WHOIS:
>
> http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=google.com&type=domain
>
> with status codes like:
>
> Status: Revocable by GoDaddy
> Status: Revocable by Moniker
> Status: Revocable by RegisterFly
>
> etc. The template would need to be "Revocable by X" where "X" would be
> the name or IANA number of the relevant registrar that could access
> the undo command. It would need to handle possible multiple status
> lines (because if a transfer could be undone within 6 months, it could
> have moved through 3 or even more registrars).
One of the discussions we had was about extending EPP etc., to include more
status codes.
>
> (3) Can a registrar that is not the current registrar for a domain
> update a status code for that domain, but only in one direction?
Short answer - no
If the domain isn't associated with our account we can't really do anything
with it at all
> e.g.
> suppose the domain in example #2 is at Tucows. One way to have "clear
> title" sooner than the 6 months (i.e. accomplishing an "irrevocable
> transfer policy") would be for each of the other registrars to perform
> the proper due diligence, and then clear/unset the relevant status
> code. Once all the "Revocable by _____" lines are gone, it'd be
> obvious that the domain name is now not captured/affected by the ETRP
> policy any more. One would not want that old registrar to be able to
> add back that status line, once cleared.
>
> I'm not thinking of becoming a registrar (yet), but one might be able
> to design an even more secure registrar (or even TLD) or permit one to
> design a more transparent registry depending on the answers to the
> above,
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> 416-588-0269
> http://www.leap.com/
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