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RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Comment on sub group discussion
- To: "Erdman,Kevin R." <Kevin.Erdman@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Comment on sub group discussion
- From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 11:55:58 -0700
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font-size:10pt;"><div>Kevin:<br><br>Agreed, there's nothing in the 60-day lock
idea that would prevent the scenario you described. At best, it can
prevent the name from going to <a href="http://mobster1.com";>mobster1.com</a>
to <a href="http://mobster2.com";>mobster2.com</a> to <a
href="http://monster-n.com";>monster-n.com</a>, which is also a problem in
tracking down hijacked names.</div><div><br></div><div>J.</div><div><br></div>
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Subject: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Comment on sub group discussion<br>
From: "Erdman, Kevin R." <<a
href="mailto:Kevin.Erdman@xxxxxxxxxx";>Kevin.Erdman@xxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
Date: Tue, January 04, 2011 11:07 am<br>
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style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">All who
were on the subgroup call (and anyone else interested)—One comment that many
made during the sub group session was that when someone’s web site is hijacked,
they know about it very quickly.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I wanted
to bring up the following scenario for a hijacking:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Let’s say
that I am a hijacker, and I just obtained control over the domain <a
href="http://reallybigwebsite.com";>reallybigwebsite.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Let’s say
I know about this 60 day window as a way to prevent me from securing my
hijacked domain with the registrar <a href="http://mobster.com";>mobster.com</a>
(<a href="http://mobster.com";>mobster.com</a> is located in a lawless
jurisdiction and does not cooperate on returns).<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">What I do
is keep the traffic flowing to <a
href="http://reallybigwebsite.com";>reallybigwebsite.com</a> for at least the 60
day period. The proprietors of <a
href="http://reallybigwebsite.com";>reallybigwebsite.com</a> do not realize that
I have control of the domain.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Around
day 70 or so of my control, I transfer the domain to <a
href="http://mobster.com";>mobster.com</a> and start wrecking havoc with the
traffic to <a
href="http://reallybigwebsite.com";>reallybigwebsite.com</a>. In this
case, the proprietor of the web site did not immediately recognize the loss of
control of the domain, but needs the rapid return
mechanism.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Maybe
this is an unlikely scenario, but would be one way to work around the urgent
return mechanism.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Also, the
conference organizer contacted me after the call to explain that the
mute/unmute works better over traditional lines rather than google’s voip
connection. My apologies for interrupting the smooth flow of good
discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"
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