[gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from IRTP Part B
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- Subject: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from IRTP Part B
- From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:49:03 -0800
Please find below the chat transcript from today's IRTP Part B WG meeting.
With best regards,
On 08/02/11 17:07, "Marika Konings"
Marika Konings:IRTP Part B WG Meeting - 8 February 2011
James Bladel:Can anyone read that baby-blue text in the document window?
Barbara Steele-RySG:I am having difficulty
Barbara Steele-RySG:as well
James Bladel:thank you.
James Bladel:How was florida?
James Bladel:Yeah, but Obama was good at it.
Michele Neylon:James - exactly
Berry Cobb:Thx Michele. You can drive from here on out.
Barbara Steele-RySG:Paul, that is the point that I was trying to get to.
Berry Cobb:Again, the restore procedure already exists. All we are adding is
a more immediate framework by which the procedure is invoked.
Berry Cobb:and if it is invoked, it should be documented.
Berry Cobb:Does anyone know who the Dispute Resolution Providers are for TDRP?
Michele Neylon:Berry - there aren't any
Michele Neylon:Berry - it's not arbitration afaik
James Bladel:It's the registry deciding between two disputing registrars.
Michele Neylon:James - that's what I thought
Michele Neylon:(I've never used it)
Barbara Steele-RySG:registry operators are the first level dispute resolution
providers and icann has named several other entities that are the second level
dispute resolution providers
Rob Golding (Othello):Where there is "co-operatioN" between registrars it's
(reasonably) straightforward - it's where the gaining registrar is unresponsive
or disagrees with the "return" on teh domain. Personally I like the more
simplified approach, but still feel that the "urgent return" aspect needs to
happen whilst the TDRP goes on.
Berry Cobb:@ Michele, TDRP section 1.3 - "DRP must be an independent and
neutral 3rd party....ICANN shall have the authority to accredit one or more
independent & neutral DRPs" This suggest to me that the DRP is an entity other
than a Registry. And it is only Level2 where a DRP was brought in.
Michele Neylon:Berry - see Barbara's reply above
Barbara Steele-RySG:Second level providers: Asian Domain Name Dispute
Resolution Centre [ADNDRC] (approved effective 28 February 2002). The National
Arbitration Forum [NAF] (approved effective 23 December 1999). Click here to
see its supplemental rules.
Paul Diaz:Given how long TDRP's typically take to work through the process,
"appeals" are rarely pursued. FWIW, I don't think Network Solutions has ever
used one of the DRPs following a TDRP
Berry Cobb:Think she said 8?
Berry Cobb:ah 2
James Bladel:quarter billion?
Simonetta Batteiger:is there a better dispute resolution process to tie this
Michele Neylon:love the star wars reference
James Bladel:Can I respond to Marika's question?
Simonetta Batteiger:go ahead James
Paul Diaz:making it part of a Consensus Policy also gives Compliance
something to enforce against, i.e. non-responsive registrars will be penalized
Michele Neylon:Paul D - if compliance have teeth
Berry Cobb:While I like the 24 hour notion.....that is a hugh service
delivery committment to sign up for. If I were a Ry, I would probably have
issue with this without some sort of cost recovery. That is why, 3 business
days seemed fair. All SLAs for IRTP only involve 5 Calendar days to monitor
the email boxes. 24 hours is a hugh leap.
Barbara Steele-RySG:Exactly Michele. Without consequences or sanctions
speciifically spelled out in the concensus policy, there really is no teeth
short of termination of the registrar's accreditation for non-compliance
Michele Neylon:24 hours for a reply or for action?
Paul Diaz:@Michele - try, but going after such "bad apples" will be be easier
(lower hanging fruit) hence more likely Compliance action
James Bladel:Compliance could test the emergency contact periodically.
Paul Diaz:@Marika - will this chat dialogue be included in the transcript
and/or WG record?
Rob Golding (Othello):@james - i suggested that to icann in brussels - that
they check the contacts actually work :)
Marika Konings:I'll forward the chat transcript to the mailing list following
Berry Cobb:no more 2nd hour ETRP calls.
Paul Diaz:thanks, Marika. lot's of good thoughts, just wanted to make sure
it wasn't lost
Berry Cobb:I recommend we use the 2nd hour for IRTP
Berry Cobb:scratch that then.....
Barbara Steele-RySG:I can't stay on either
Marika Konings:Sorry got disconnected
Paul Diaz:I cannot today, but will try in future weeks if needed
Matt Serlin:i can not stay either
Marika Konings:am dialing back in
Marika Konings:don't hang up yet....
Marika Konings:am back
James Bladel:Need to drop. Thanks everyone!
Rob Golding (Othello):until next week - see youon teh mailing lists :)