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RE: [gnso-irtpc] Comment #18

  • To: "Berry Cobb" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-irtpc] Comment #18
  • From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 17:55:23 -0700

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font-size:10pt;"><div>Thank you for finding this, Berry.&nbsp; I believe it 
adds some much-needed context.</div><div><br></div><div>And for the "threshold" 
of data changes that become a Change of Registrant, I will send a note to the 
list shortly with my 
findings.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks--</div><div><br></div><div>J.</div><div><br></div>
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Subject: [gnso-irtpc] Comment #18<br>
From: "Berry Cobb" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Tue, August 07, 2012 11:21 am<br>
To: &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
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style="font-size:12pt;">Team,<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">In review of comment 18, the WG asked for context of 
the comment posted.&nbsp; By review of the transcript, it looks as though it 
came from Christian Mueller.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">Comment:&nbsp; When you change house or telephone 
number, you also need to provide proof of ownership so it is not unreasonable 
to ask for a similar confirmation in the context of change of 
registrant.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">Dialogue in Prague (p9-11):<o:p></o:p></div><div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Christian Mueller: Yes, Christian 
Mueller from (Straddle). Okay, where are we? First of all it was about time 
periods right? How long - let's start from the back. How long should the 
authorization should be valid?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">We think that 30 days is actually what we want to have. 
If it's longer, than make it multiple of months. So don't do 45 days, 27.6 days 
or 62 days. But do it 30 or 60 days.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">Otherwise customers get confused because they are 
simple minded. Their interest is not domain industry, but other stuff. And so 
they need an easy way to calculate how long it would be valid. And that's 
months or - and not fractions of months or something. Our - I would say 30 
days.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">Furthermore, what was the other question? Help me out 
with that. So what is an update right? Was that the 
question?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">James Bladel: Oh yes, where's the threshold for change 
of registrant, yes.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">Christian Mueller: Yes and we'd say name or address. 
But not phone number, email address or something like that. And name or 
address, many people argue that name changes alone should be sufficient while 
address, if you are moving, is not a good thing.<o:p></o:p></div><div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">On the other hand, my name is 
Christian Mueller, which is obviously one of the very common German names. I 
used to live on a street where we had three Christian Mueller's on one 
street.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">So to, 
you know, separate possible domain owners with street address, even the house 
number in this case was significant. The important - or the nice thing about 
that is I got a lot of postcards from different countries.<o:p></o:p></div><div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Hi Christian, we are now in South 
Africa. The weather's nice. And I'd go what? So name alone is not sufficient. 
You need the - your home address. But phone numbers, changes, updates should 
not be, you know, (a change of owner).<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">What else? Sort of a grace period after changes we say 
no. So if you change the owner wide limit, that would - why do we - we are not 
in favor of this kind of period is that people make mistakes. They change owner 
and mistype the new owner or the address of the new owner.<o:p></o:p></div><div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">And then we have no way of correcting 
that for the next let's say 60 days or so. We see that this is, at least with 
mass customers, is a more often problem than, you know, misuse of changing the 
owner (rapidly). Is that customers misspell something, mistype something 
because they actually type in their names in our 
(storefront).<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">And, you know, they quite often do mistakes. And then 
they call our customer service and say yes, my address is this and that and not 
this and that. And can we correct that? And in the future we would have to say 
no for the next two months let's say, we can't do that. And, you know, that 
might be a problem.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">Berry Cobb<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names &amp; Numbers 
(ICANN)<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">720.839.5735<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><a target="_blank" 
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class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">@berrycobb<o:p></o:p></div><div 
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