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RE: [gnso-irtpc] Comment #18
- To: "Berry Cobb" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx
- Subject: RE: [gnso-irtpc] Comment #18
- From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 17:55:23 -0700
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font-size:10pt;"><div>Thank you for finding this, Berry. I believe it
adds some much-needed context.</div><div><br></div><div>And for the "threshold"
of data changes that become a Change of Registrant, I will send a note to the
list shortly with my
findings.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks--</div><div><br></div><div>J.</div><div><br></div>
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Subject: [gnso-irtpc] Comment #18<br>
From: "Berry Cobb" <<a
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Date: Tue, August 07, 2012 11:21 am<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx">gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
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style="font-size:12pt;">Team,<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">In review of comment 18, the WG asked for context of
the comment posted. By review of the transcript, it looks as though it
came from Christian Mueller.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">Comment: When you change house or telephone
number, you also need to provide proof of ownership so it is not unreasonable
to ask for a similar confirmation in the context of change of
registrant.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">Dialogue in Prague (p9-11):<o:p></o:p></div><div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Christian Mueller: Yes, Christian
Mueller from (Straddle). Okay, where are we? First of all it was about time
periods right? How long - let's start from the back. How long should the
authorization should be valid?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">We think that 30 days is actually what we want to have.
If it's longer, than make it multiple of months. So don't do 45 days, 27.6 days
or 62 days. But do it 30 or 60 days.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">Otherwise customers get confused because they are
simple minded. Their interest is not domain industry, but other stuff. And so
they need an easy way to calculate how long it would be valid. And that's
months or - and not fractions of months or something. Our - I would say 30
days.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">Furthermore, what was the other question? Help me out
with that. So what is an update right? Was that the
question?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">James Bladel: Oh yes, where's the threshold for change
of registrant, yes.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">Christian Mueller: Yes and we'd say name or address.
But not phone number, email address or something like that. And name or
address, many people argue that name changes alone should be sufficient while
address, if you are moving, is not a good thing.<o:p></o:p></div><div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">On the other hand, my name is
Christian Mueller, which is obviously one of the very common German names. I
used to live on a street where we had three Christian Mueller's on one
street.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">So to,
you know, separate possible domain owners with street address, even the house
number in this case was significant. The important - or the nice thing about
that is I got a lot of postcards from different countries.<o:p></o:p></div><div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Hi Christian, we are now in South
Africa. The weather's nice. And I'd go what? So name alone is not sufficient.
You need the - your home address. But phone numbers, changes, updates should
not be, you know, (a change of owner).<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">What else? Sort of a grace period after changes we say
no. So if you change the owner wide limit, that would - why do we - we are not
in favor of this kind of period is that people make mistakes. They change owner
and mistype the new owner or the address of the new owner.<o:p></o:p></div><div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">And then we have no way of correcting
that for the next let's say 60 days or so. We see that this is, at least with
mass customers, is a more often problem than, you know, misuse of changing the
owner (rapidly). Is that customers misspell something, mistype something
because they actually type in their names in our
(storefront).<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">And, you know, they quite often do mistakes. And then
they call our customer service and say yes, my address is this and that and not
this and that. And can we correct that? And in the future we would have to say
no for the next two months let's say, we can't do that. And, you know, that
might be a problem.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">Berry Cobb<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers
(ICANN)<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;">720.839.5735<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;"><a target="_blank"
href="mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx">mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><o:p></o:p></div><div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">@berrycobb<o:p></o:p></div><div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div>
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