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RE: [gnso-irtpc] Consensus Call: Charter Question B (FOAs)

  • To: "Sedo :: Simonetta Batteiger" <simonetta@xxxxxxxx>, "Bob Mountain" <bmountain@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "IRTPC Working Group" <gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-irtpc] Consensus Call: Charter Question B (FOAs)
  • From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:25:06 -0700

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font-size:10pt;"><div>Simonetta, Bob, and Team:<br><br>Sorry for the delayed 
response, but Simonetta's reply is spot-on.&nbsp; I also agree with her 
improved language, with one minor question:&nbsp; Why change "the" to "any" or 
"a" when referring to the transfer request?&nbsp; I believe we would want to be 
as specific as possible on this, unless I'm missing some use 
case.</div><div><br></div><div>Thoughts?<br><br>J.</div><div><br></div>
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Subject: RE: [gnso-irtpc] Consensus Call: Charter Question B (FOAs)<br>
From: "Sedo :: Simonetta Batteiger" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:simonetta@xxxxxxxx";>simonetta@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Mon, September 10, 2012 8:05 am<br>
To: Bob Mountain &lt;<a 
href="mailto:bmountain@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bmountain@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;, "James 
M. Bladel"<br>
&lt;<a href="mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;, IRTPC 
Working Group &lt;<a 
href="mailto:gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
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style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
 <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
 <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
 think James tried to capture this non-time limited idea with the “permitted to 
allow registrants to opt-in to an automatic renewal” part. But I also think 
this could be worded a bit more clear. The original wording almost sounded like 
it’s something we want to put forward as optional, this was not what I thought 
the intent of the proposal should be.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
 <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The
 other thing is that IRTP-B asked that FOAs are done both at the Gaining as 
well as the Losing Registrar, so the restriction in the first paragraph to just 
the Gaining registrar does not seem to make sense to me. I would simply state 
“the registrar” there. The important thing in case of a change of registrant is 
also, that the “seller” or “prior registrant” gave their consent to the 
transfer, and that they can do so ahead of time if they wish to list their 
names for sale in an automatic trading system.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
 <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Also
 thought that a dispute on the name should be an additional reason for an FOA 
to expire. (can anyone think of additional reasons?)<o:p></o:p></span></div> 
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
 <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">How
 about something like this (marked all my change proposals yellow, so it’s easy 
to spot them):<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
 <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">WG
 Response:</span></u><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
 <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The
 WG concludes that FOAs, once obtained by a <s><span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">gaining</span></s> registrar, 
should be valid for 60 days.&nbsp; Following this time period, <s><span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">the gaining</span></s> a 
registrar must re-authorize (via new FOA) <s><span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">the</span></s><span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow"> &nbsp;any</span> transfer 
request.&nbsp;Registrars should <s><span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">be permitted to</span> </s> 
allow registrants to opt-into an automatic renewal of FOAs, if 
desired.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
 <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">In
 addition <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">to</span> the 
60-day validity <span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">restriction 
<s>period</s></span>, FOAs <s><span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">will also no longer be 
valid</span></s><span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow"> should 
expire</span> if there is a change of registrant, or if the domain name 
expires, or if <s><span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">the</span></s><span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow"> a</span> transfer is executed, 
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">or if there is a dispute 
filed for the domain name</span>.&nbsp; In order to preserve the integrity of 
the FOA, there cannot be any opt-in or opt-out provisions <span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">for these reasons for expiration 
<s>this requirement</s>.</span><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
 <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Finally,
 during the course of its deliberations on this topic, the WG notes that the 
use of EPP Authorization Info (AuthInfo) keys has become the de facto security 
mechanism in our industry and <span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow"> thereby replaced some of the 
reason for the creation of the standard FOA</span>.&nbsp; We recommend that 
future efforts in this area examine whether the universal adoption and 
implementation of EPP AuthInfo codes <span 
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">sh<s>w</s></span>ould eliminate 
the use of FOAs.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#00B050"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></div>
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<a href="mailto:owner-gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx";>owner-gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx</a> [<a 
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Mountain<br> <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 09, 2012 
6:28 PM<br> <b>To:</b> James M. Bladel; IRTPC Working Group<br> <b>Subject:</b> 
Re: [gnso-irtpc] Consensus Call: Charter Question B 
(FOAs)<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
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 also discussed a non-time limited FoA at the discretion of the registrant, 
were you going to cover that in a different section?<o:p></o:p></span></div> 
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 </span></b><span 
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 M. Bladel" &lt;<a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br> <b>Date: 
</b>Sunday, September 9, 2012 6:22 PM<br> <b>To: </b>IRTPC Working Group &lt;<a 
target="_blank" 
href="mailto:gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br> <b>Subject: 
</b>[gnso-irtpc] Consensus Call: Charter Question B 
(FOAs)<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Team:<br>
 <br> Please review the statement(s) below, and indicate your support, or 
objection.&nbsp; If the latter, please propose and alternative 
approach.<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Avri
 and I will work with staff to clean up the final language, but these are the 
(very) basic points.<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div 
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Thanks--<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">J.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">____________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
 </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><i><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Charter
 Question B: Whether provisions on time-limiting Form Of Authorization (FOA)s 
should be implemented to avoid fraudulent transfers out. For example, if a 
Gaining Registrar sends and receives an FOA back from a transfer contact, but 
the name is locked, the registrar may hold the FOA pending adjustment to the 
domain name status, during which time the registrant or other registration 
information may have changed.&nbsp;</span></i><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
 </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
 </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">WG
 Response:</span></u><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
 </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The
 WG concludes that FOAs, once obtained by the gaining registrar, should be 
valid for 60 days.&nbsp; Following this time period, the gaining registrar must 
re-authorize (via new FOA) the transfer request.&nbsp;&nbsp; Registrars should 
be permitted to allow registrants to opt-in to an automatic renewal of FOAs, if 
desired.<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
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 addition the 60-day validity period, FOAs will also no longer be valid if 
there is a change of registrant, or if the domain name expires, or if the 
transfer is executed.&nbsp; In order to preserve the integrity of the FOA, 
there cannot be any opt-in or opt-out provisions for this 
requirement.<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
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 during the course of its deliberations on this topic, the WG notes that the 
use of EPP Authorization Info (AuthInfo) keys has become the de facto security 
mechanism in our industry.&nbsp; We recommend that future efforts in this area 
examine whether the universal adoption and implementation of EPP AuthInfo codes 
would eliminate the use of FOAs.<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div 
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