Re: [gnso-lockpdp-wg] RE: For your review by 25 July 2012
Speaking for a registrar, I agree with Kristine. We need evidence that the UDRP complaint has been filed, which is not evidenced by the submission of the complaint to us by the complainant, but only upon the initiation of procedures by the UDRP provider. We have also seen cases where we received a complaint, but not the opening questionaire, so locking the domain name would have been the wrong way to go. OTOH, we do realize that this causes a smallish loophole, as a registrar so inclined might warn the registrant of the complaint before being required to lock it and enable him to enact all kinds of shenanigans. Not sure how common this is though, we never forward the complaint to the registrant. For about 50% of all complaints we receive, we do not receive the complaint before we receive the provider questionnaire, maybe because of this risk... Best, Volker Marika, this looks good. My only question involves the first charter question and how we want to present that. The question addresses steps **complainants** must do to obtain a lock, however, only the UDRP Provider can tell a Registrar that a complaint has really been filed (some complainants actually send a UDRP complaint to the respondent and registrar and never actually file it---it's rare but it's happened) and in the vast majority of cases, Registrars will only implement a lock based on a request by the Provider. I realize that is the wording of the charter question, but I wonder if we can ask it differently or add a sub-part? I think we want to know what information from the Provider would make a Registrar's life easier. Or maybe we **do** want to ask if Complainants should be submitting something specially to the Registrar (in addition to the complaint, which I believe at least NAF and WIPO require)? I suspect Registrars do not want to hear from complainants, but I think we want to know what the Registrar DOES want.I hope I'm making myself clear. Or maybe the Registrars on the list can clarify that they really do want the complainants to do something. -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook: www.key-systems.net/facebook www.twitter.com/key_systems Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen. -------------------------------------------- Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Volker A. Greimann - legal department - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated: www.key-systems.net/facebook www.twitter.com/key_systems CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
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