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Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Re: GNSO-OSC-CSG- Subtask 1-Final Recommendation re-submit
- To: "SS Kshatriy" <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>, owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx, "OSC-CSG Work Team" <gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx>, "Claudio Di Gangi" <cdigangi@xxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Re: GNSO-OSC-CSG- Subtask 1-Final Recommendation re-submit
- From: "Zahid Jamil" <zahid@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:15:58 +0000
Please note that I support Claudio's comments. I am also confident that the BC
would support these comments.
Sincerely,
Zahid Jamil
Barrister-at-law
Jamil & Jamil
Barristers-at-law
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Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan
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-----Original Message-----
From: SS Kshatriy <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:09:22
To: OSC-CSG Work Team<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx>; Claudio Di
Gangi<cdigangi@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: Olga Cavalli<olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Re: GNSO-OSC-CSG- Subtask 1-Final Recommendation
re-submit
Hi Claudio,
(Also with a request to chair to consider Claudio's comments)
I have read your concerns.
the document I submitted is Final and submitted second time. (Earlier, even
Final Draft was submitted twice.).
It is not a draft.
Thus it is Final Recommendations from my side and I don't propose to make any
more change as it is not possible for me to accommodate all views the way one
wants.
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I will leave it to Chair and Team to decide.
You may request Chair to have your points in the Agenda.
best,
SS
--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Re: GNSO-OSC-CSG- Subtask 1-Final Recommendation
re-submit
To: "'SS Kshatriy'" <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>, "OSC-CSG Work Team"
<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:52 AM
Dear SS,
Thanks. I am pleased to see that many of my prior concerns have been addressed
with the latest draft.
A few of my concerns still remain however, so I have listed these below for
ease of reference. I hope these can be addressed in the next version.
I note that in Section 3. Policy and Consensus, the current draft states:
“GROUPs shall function on the GNSO WG model for the purpose of reaching
consensus and the use of voting should be minimized as much as possible.”
I have previously stated that: GROUPs should be able to determine on their own
merits, what model they would like to use for the purposes of reaching
consensus within their membership.
I do not see a compelling reason why we need to mandate a uniform model that
all GROUPs must use.
The last I checked the GNSO WG model was not yet fleshed out, so any decision
to incorporate it into the internal functioning of a GROUP is premature -- or
at least should be provisional. Also, a GNSO WG and a GNSO Constituency or
Stakeholder Group have very different characteristics and different functions.
As a result, I don’t think its correct to assume that a consensus model used in
one setting, is necessarily the best to use another setting.
Here is a suggested amendment to the text:
“GROUPs should consider adopting various models for reaching consensus,
including for example, the ICANN GNSO WG model. Whatever model the GROUP
chooses to reach consensus should be made clear to its members within its
bylaws or Charter. The use of voting within GROUPs should be minimized as much
as possible.”
My concern remains with recommendation D.1, which states:
“Admission criteria shall be certain and predictable and not arbitrary or
discretionary. Where eligibility depends on participation in a certain sector
of business, then applicants shall be entitled to submit evidence of their
participation.”
I have previously commented that within certain GNSO groups, that there can
elements of subjectivity involved in making admission decisions. This detail is
not reflected in the current draft. I therefore recommend the following edit:
“Admission criteria shall be certain and predictable and not arbitrary or
discretionary to the maximum extent possible. Where eligibility depends on
participation in a certain sector of business, then applicants shall be
entitled to submit evidence of their participation.”
On Section 2e, I still think the applicant should be able to “Opt-In or
Opt-Out” of making their application status publically available. This is not
reflected in the draft.
Thanks again for your continuing efforts.
Claudio
From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of SS Kshatriy
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:31 AM
To: OSC-CSG Work Team
Subject: [gnso-osc-csg] Re: GNSO-OSC-CSG- Subtask 1-Final Recommendation
re-submit
Hi Chair and Team,
Further to posting of Final Recommendations, comments from Chuck, Zahid and
Rafik were recieved.
I have incorporated these comments in the Final Recommendations and informed
Chuck, Zahid and Rafik individually.
The Final document is re-submitted for your referwnce.
best,
SS
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