RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report

["Papac, Krista" <Krista.Papac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

SS,

Thank you for the clarification.  I, too, read the report.

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From: SS Kshatriy [mailto:sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:48 PM
To: victoria@xxxxxxxxxx; Olga Cavalli; ChuckGomes; Papac, Krista
Cc: Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report

Yes Krishta,
It is about 1.4 and about OSC.

S. S. KSHATRIYA

--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Papac, Krista <Krista.Papac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Papac, Krista <Krista.Papac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report
To: "SS Kshatriy" <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>, "victoria@xxxxxxxxxx" 
<victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Olga Cavalli" <olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx>, "ChuckGomes" 
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Julie Hedlund" <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-osc-csg" 
<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 11:32 AM
SS,

I am not clear on what report you are referring to when you ask "How many 
members read our earlier minority report" or which members.  Are you referring 
to the Minority Report on Subtask 1.4 or something else?  Are you referring to 
WT members or OSC members?

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Gartner advises: "It is also important that the licensee continue to track the 
software vendor's financials and viability annually, because any signs of 
financial problems would justify the cost of verification services." Continue 
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From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of SS Kshatriy
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:28 AM
To: victoria@xxxxxxxxxx; Olga Cavalli; ChuckGomes
Cc: Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report

But it will not be read.
How many members read our earlier minority report?

SS

--- On Sun, 5/16/10, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report
To: victoria@xxxxxxxxxx, "Olga Cavalli" <olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Julie Hedlund" <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-osc-csg" 
<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 5:52 AM
Your report will be available in full for anyone to read. No one has ever 
suggested otherwise.

Chuck

From: victoria@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:victoria@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:50 AM
To: Gomes, Chuck; Olga Cavalli
Cc: Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report

My objection remains ---you propose extraction and in effect 
trunciation/editing. That is not acceptable. There are no word limits for 
Minority Reports nor style formalities and we are entitled to submit it in the 
form of our choice. I'm sorry if you think it too long or would have preferred 
a different approach. We want our report read in full and taken as is. We are 
not submitting enumerated minority recomendations.
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From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 08:27:03 -0400
To: <victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>; Olga Cavalli<olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Julie Hedlund<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>; gnso-osc-csg<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report

You misunderstand Victoria.  I am not suggesting that the minority report 
should not be referenced as submitted or that any changes should be made to 
your report.  I am suggesting an additional document be prepared that would 
make it very easy for the WT, the OSC and the Council to compare your 
recommendations to those in the WT  report in a concise and accurate manner.  
For me this would make it much easier for me to simply see where the actual 
variations between the two recommendations are and whether they are justifiable 
in my view or need additional consideration.  In my opinion, your document does 
not do that for several reasons: 1) it is very long and hence many who are not 
close to this issue will not read it thoroughly; 2) it does not concisely list 
your recommendations but instead incorporates them in the midst of lots of 
background and your justification; 3) it does not accurately list all of the WT 
final recommendations or discuss other related GNSO requirements.

Chuck

From: victoria@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:victoria@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:09 AM
To: Gomes, Chuck; Olga Cavalli
Cc: Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report

I would like to say and I think SS would agree that we would prefer this task 
not be undertaken and ask that the minority report be submitted just as it is 
to be read in full---and not extracted from or condensed or edited or 
trunciated in anyway whatsoever. Thank you. Victoria
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From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 07:46:22 -0400
To: Victoria McEvedy<victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>; Olga Cavalli<olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Julie Hedlund<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>; gnso-osc-csg<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report

Olga,

After having read the minority report, I would like to make a suggestion that I 
think would be beneficial to the CSG WT as we finalize our work, to the OSC 
when they review our final report, and to the Council when they take action on 
the recommendations that are sent forward by the OSC.  I suggest that Julie (if 
possible) prepare a complete and concise table that lists the recommendations 
in the minority report with the corresponding recommendation from the WT report 
as applicable.  To the extent possible:

*         Recommendations should be quoted verbatim from the applicable 
document if that can be done briefly.

*         In cases where recommendations include multiple parts, they should be 
broken out in those separate parts if that makes it easier to compare the 
elements.

*         Document references should be included for all recommendations from 
both documents to make it easy for anyone to go to the documents and read the 
full text (e.g., Section #, Page #, Line # as appropriate).

*         The comparison table should not include any rationale for 
recommendations but readers should be encourage to read the full text; this 
will hopefully allow readers to compare the recommendations on their face value 
and make their own analysis and form their own questions.
I fully understand that this is a time consuming task for Julie, but I strongly 
believe that it will save lots of time for everyone involved as the 
recommendations move forward through the next steps of the process.

I welcome other thoughts on this.

Chuck

From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Victoria McEvedy
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:48 AM
To: Olga Cavalli
Cc: Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report

Dear Chair and WG,

Please find attached by way of submission a Joint Minority Report by SS 
Kshatriy and me.

Julie, I wonder if you could help us with some of the missing links.

Thank you and best regards,


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From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
Sent: 11 May 2010 23:56
To: Claudio Di Gangi
Cc: Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 07 May 2010 Meeting

Claudio,
thanks for your comments and suggestions.
I agree with them.
Regards
Olga
2010/5/10 Claudio Di Gangi 
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Olga,

Thank you. Please see the attached red-line, where I made three edits.

One covers a change we agreed to on a work team call: to delete the Term limit 
for GNSO Councilors within this document.

The reason is because term limits for Councilors are already specified in the 
ICANN Bylaws, so we wanted to avoid confusion with those provisions. For 
reference, I think Michael was chairing that particular work team call.

My other two edits are summarized below, and are non-substantive.

1.      I added "for GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies" to the title 
of the document so it is more clear as to where this applies.

2.      I made an edit to clarify a sentence in the background section that I 
found vague because it referred to Groups existing within the "GNSO Council", 
not the broader GNSO. This sentence now reads:

"When the BGC WG made its initial recommendations, the concept of Stakeholder 
Groups (SGs) as part of the GNSO structure had not yet been implemented.  Since 
then SGs have been implemented within the GNSO structure along with 
Constituencies."

Subject to the correction identified above, I am OK approving this document. 
Thanks to all for their time & hard work on the effort.

claudio

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 On Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 2:25 PM
To: Julie Hedlund
Cc: gnso-osc-csg
Subject: Re: [ gnso-osc-csg ] Actions/Summary: 07 May 2010 Meeting

Thanks Julie for this.

Please note:

Work Team members are requested to review Task 1 document and to provide any 
final comments and minority reports, if any, by Friday, 14 May.

In the case that you agree with the Task 1 text as it is now and do not want to 
send minority reports or suggest changes, please send an email to the list with 
this confirmation.

Have a nice weekend

Regards
Olga
2010/5/7 Julie Hedlund 
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Dear Work Team members,

Here are the actions from today's meeting.  (You will find the summary on the 
wiki at: 
https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team.)  Please 
let me know if you have any changes or questions.  Our next meeting will be 
held next Friday, 14 May at 1300 UTC/0600 PST/0900 EST for one hour.

Best regards,

Julie

Action Items:
Task 1: Actions:
1.  Olga asked Julie to make the changes and to circulate the revised document. 
(Done, See attached document.)
2.  Work Team members are requested to review the document and to provide any 
final comments and minority reports, if any, by Friday, 14 May.

Task 2:
Debbie will revise the framework document based on comments received from Work 
Team members and circulate the revised document for review.

Summary:
See the wiki at: 
https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team



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