RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations

[Victoria McEvedy <victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Olga, I'm afraid I cannot participate in a call -I have a prior appointment.



I will participate on the list however.



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From: Olga Cavalli [mailto:olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 22 July 2010 17:34
To: Rafik Dammak
Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Victoria McEvedy; gnso-osc-csg; Julie Hedlund
Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations



Hi,
I suggest that we take some time in the call tomorrow to finalize this text.
Those interested in preparing a final language for the motion plaease try to 
join the call.
Julie, could you be so kind to prepare a version with different suggested 
languages so we can review it?
I hope this is not too late for you and makes it complicated, if this is the 
case we will manage somehow.
Best regards
Olga

2010/7/22 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>>

Thanks Chuck,



Rafik

2010/7/23 Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>

No Rafik.  Board approval is not required.  The SIC and Board will simply be 
informed of the action.  Of course, the SIC and Board could always come back 
and say that that the recommendations do not satisfy the Board's 
recommendations and ask for more work.



Chuck



From: Rafik Dammak 
[mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:12 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck
Cc: Victoria McEvedy; gnso-osc-csg; Julie Hedlund


Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations



Hi Chuck,

just for clarification, after adoption of the motion and recommendation by GNSO 
council, the document will be passed to SIC and board for approval?



Rafik



2010/7/23 Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>

Please see below Victoria.



Chuck



From: Victoria McEvedy [mailto:victoria@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:58 AM
To: Gomes, Chuck
Cc: gnso-osc-csg; Julie Hedlund


Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations



Chuck -if that is the case then perhaps the BGC should be tasked with 
determining compliance/enforcement instead of the GNSO Council?  It certainly 
cannot be fair to put Staff in the position of enforcers for some of the 
structural and other reasons already aired.

[Gomes, Chuck] That is not a typical Board member responsibility.  That it is 
the kind of task that Directors would assign to staff.  Compliance enforcement 
by ICANN has been a very important concern in recent years; that has mostly 
related to registrar agreements but it would seem to me to apply to 
SG/Constituency charters as well.



What models are there within ICANN for follow up and enforcement of changes and 
what routes for stakeholders to raise complaints as to compliance (other than 
the Ombudsman)?

[Gomes, Chuck] There are specific mechanisms in place for complaints about 
registrars and Whois problems, but I am not aware of one for these kind of 
complaints.  Maybe Julie can comment on that.



I do think a deadline should be given for the Charters to be amended by.

[Gomes, Chuck] That is not in the Council's hands.  It is in the Board's court.



Best,





Victoria McEvedy

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From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]
Sent: 21 July 2010 00:44
To: Victoria McEvedy
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations



Victoria,



The Council is not a governing body; it is a manager of the policy development 
process.  The Council has the task of approving the Constituency & SG Operating 
Procedures but has no responsibility to enforce them.  The Board has the 
responsibility of approving the Constituency and Stakeholder Group charters so 
it will ultimately be up to the Board, with staff support, to decide whether 
the charters appropriately reflect the Procedures as well as to enforce 
compliance of the charters.  If the motion was worded as you suggested, it 
could guarantee that certain members of the GNSO community would be up in arms.



Chuck



From: victoria@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:victoria@xxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:victoria@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:19 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck
Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations



But these are all GNSO constituencies and stakeholder groups ---so within that 
SO ---in relation to which the Council is the governing body. Please explain.

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From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>

Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:35:52 -0400

To: Victoria McEvedy<victoria@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>>; Julie 
Hedlund<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>>; Olga 
Cavalli<olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx>>

Cc: gnso-osc-csg<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx>>

Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations



Sorry Victoria.  This will not work because the Council has no authority over 
SGs and Constituencies.



Julie - I suggested one word amendment choices that I think would work.



Chuck



From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx>] On 
Behalf Of Victoria McEvedy
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:15 PM
To: Julie Hedlund; Olga Cavalli
Cc: gnso-osc-csg
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations



Julie -suggested amendment:



RESOLVED FURTHER, that the GNSO Council approves [the CSG-WT majority 
recommendations [and/or] the minority recommendations].   GNSO Stakeholder 
Groups and Constituencies are to implement mandatory recommendations and any 
non-mandatory recommendations as adopted by their general body on a vote by the 
full membership and shall incorporate the changes in Charters and any other 
relevant documents, if any, within two months of the date of this resolution. 
Compliance with this recommendation to be within the jurisdiction of and 
supervised by the GNSO Council:
*         Recommended Common Operating Principles and Participation Guidelines 
for GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies; and  
<http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-csg-recommendations-task-27may10-en.pdf>
Recommendations on a GNSO Database of Community Members 
<http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-csg-recommendations-task-27may10-en.pdf>







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From: Julie Hedlund 
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Sent: 20 July 2010 16:28
To: Victoria McEvedy; Olga Cavalli
Cc: gnso-osc-csg
Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations



Dear Victoria,

Please do suggest language.  Staff language was merely a suggestion.

Best,

Julie


On 7/20/10 11:15 AM, "Victoria McEvedy" 
<victoria@xxxxxxxxxx<http://victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Thank you Julie.

The obvious issue with that language is that it renders every single 
recommendation entirely optional and non-voluntary-and the whole exercise 
nothing more than advisory or for reference-despite the fact that after much 
discussion particular recommendations were agreed by the majority as "must" 
recommendations and the balance 'should' recommendations.

It's currently a motion for each group to carry on as these please and a 
recommendation for the status quo.  I don't think that's an acceptable outcome 
after our 18 months of work.

I would suggest that the recommendations should be accepted as the 'musts' or 
'shoulds' as recommended in each case.

I would be happy to provide some language ---or perhaps the Staff would like to 
do that in the first instance.

Best,


Victoria McEvedy
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From: Julie Hedlund [mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 20 July 2010 16:03
To: Victoria McEvedy; Olga Cavalli
Cc: gnso-osc-csg
Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations

Dear Victoria,

Staff included that suggested language for consideration in the motion since 
Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups may need to amend their charters based on 
the recommendations in the report.

Thanks,
Julie


On 7/20/10 10:54 AM, "Victoria McEvedy" 
<victoria@xxxxxxxxxx<http://victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Dear WT,

Could someone explain what "for evaluation in amending their charters, as 
appropriate" means? What is the origin of this language?

Thank you and regards,


Victoria McEvedy
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From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx<http://owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
Sent: 20 July 2010 14:54
To: Olga Cavalli
Cc: gnso-osc-csg
Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations

Dear Olga,

Here is a draft motion for you to consider.  Please feel free to edit it, of 
course.  Let me know if I can help in any way.

Best regards,

Julie

DRAFT RESOLUTION:  Final Council Action on GCOT & CSG Deliverables

WHEREAS, the GNSO Council, at its 23 June 2010 meeting in Brussels, accepted a 
set of deliverables submitted by the GNSO Council Operations Work Team (GCOT) 
<https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?gnso_operations_team>  and the 
Constituency and Stakeholder Group Operations Work Team (CSG-WT) 
<https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team> ;

WHEREAS, a twenty-one (21) day Public Comment Forum 
<http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#gcot-csg-recommendations> completed 
between 28 June 2010 and 18 July 2010 and a Staff Summary and Analysis 
<http://forum.icann.org/lists/gcot-csg-recommendations/msg00001.html> has been 
published;
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council agreed to take action on the these deliverables as 
soon as possible after the end of the public comment period;

WHEREAS, there were no public comments submitted that would amend any of the 
GCOT or CSG-WT recommendations;

NOW, BE IT THEREFORE:

RESOLVED, that the GNSO Council approves the following set of GCOT documents, 
without further modification, and directs Staff to publish a new version of the 
GNSO Operating Procedures (GOP) containing these sections and chapters:
*         Section 2.1-Council Member Term Limits 
<http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-gnso-op-procedures-term-limits-24may10-en.pdf>
*         Section 2.4-Board Seat Elections 
<http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-gnso-op-procedures-board-seat-elections-24may10-en.pdf>
*         Section 3.8-Absences and Vacancies 
<http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-gnso-op-procedures-absences-vacancies-11jun10-en.pdf>
*         Chapter 4.0-Voting 
<http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-gnso-op-procedures-voting-11jun10-en.pdf>
*         Chapter 5.0-Statements and Disclosures of Interest 
<http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-gnso-op-procedures-soi-doi-11jun10-en.pdf>
o   Note that two sections, 5.3.2 and 5.3.3, are not approved pending further 
Staff action to be determined.  These sections are footnoted in the document as 
"inactive" until subsequently approved by the OSC and Council.

RESOLVED FURTHER, that the GNSO Council approves the following CSG-WT 
deliverable and directs Staff to provide these recommendations to GNSO 
Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies for evaluation in amending their 
charters, as appropriate:
*         Recommended Common Operating Principles and Participation Guidelines 
for GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies; and  
<http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-csg-recommendations-task-27may10-en.pdf>
Recommendations on a GNSO Database of Community Members 
<http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/draft-csg-recommendations-task-27may10-en.pdf>

RESOLVED FURTHER, that the GCOT has successfully completed its assignments, as 
chartered by the Operations Steering Committee (OSC); therefore, the GNSO 
Council hereby discharges the GCOT with its gratitude and appreciation for the 
team's dedication, commitment, and thoughtful recommendations.




On 7/19/10 4:36 PM, "Chuck Gomes" 
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<http://cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Sounds good.  Hopefully a Councilor will make the motion and another Councilor 
on the WT will second it.

Chuck


From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx<http://owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:27 PM
To: Olga Cavalli
Cc: gnso-osc-csg
Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Public Comments on CSG Work Team Recommendations

Dear Olga,

I will forward the draft motion to you as soon as it is ready.  I think we can 
get it to you by tomorrow.

Best,

Julie


On 7/19/10 3:05 PM, "Olga Cavalli" 
<olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx<http://olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thanks Julie, let me know once the  motion is ready so we can move it.
Best
Olga

2010/7/19 Julie Hedlund 
<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx<http://julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>>
Dear Work Team members,

The public comment forum on the Task 1 recommendations ended yesterday.  There 
was only one comment and it was not substantive.  I have produced a summary and 
analysis that is available here: 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/gcot-csg-recommendations/msg00001.html.  In 
particular, the comment did not address the Work Team's report.  It related to 
the ICANN comment process in general.

The next step is for the GNSO Council to approve the report.  Staff will 
prepare a draft motion for consideration.

Best regards,

Julie




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