Re: [ncsg-policy] Re: [gnso-osc-ops] Voting Remedies Procedures Map and Abstention Notification Form--UPDATED
- To: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ncsg-policy] Re: [gnso-osc-ops] Voting Remedies Procedures Map and Abstention Notification Form--UPDATED
- From: Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:28:35 -0700
I share your concerns about this. Noncommercial GNSO counselors have
traditionally taken different voting positions on issues - indeed
NCUC had the record of the most diversity of GNSO votes of all 6
constituencies according the LSE report from a few years ago. This
diversity of viewpoint among our counselors was something the LSE
Report applauded and that noncommercial users at ICANN are very proud
of. Surely staff is not trying to change our policy now and
shoehorn us into a single unified official position on issues. That
would hardly be appropriate or in the best interest of anyone. We
have a diverse membership and the diversity of views of our members
grows every day.
On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
I still have an issue: the meaning of 'establish voting position'.
I still believe that this phrase carries possibly the wrong
implications. Since the voting position can be : vote as you think
is best for the SG/C, or consult the absent Council member and
decide together how to vote in the manner that you 2 conclude is
best for the SG/C. E.g we have a consultation with the membership
(those who wish to participate) a few days before every council
meeting where the varied community viewpoints on an issue are
discussed. The council members then take that input, discuss among
themselves and the rest of the policy committee and each separately
decide how to vote in the manner that based on their perceptions is
what is best for the NCSG. This policy can't seem to preclude that.
We need a note that indicates that the definition of 'define voting
positions is totally charter dependent.'
We cannot allow for this to mean the SG/Cs are forced to enforce
some notion of SG/C voting discipline if that is not the SG/C way
of doing things.
On 21 Oct 2010, at 22:54, Ken Bour wrote:
To: Chuck Gomes (GNSO Council Chair)
GCOT Work Team
The topic of Voting Remedies (i.e. abstentions, absences, and
vacancies) is currently Item #4 on the GNSO Council agenda
scheduled for 28 October 2010 and Ray Fassett, GCOT Chair, has
been invited to participate.
In preparation for this discussion, I wanted to inform you that I
have made several improvements (outlined below) to both the Voting
Remedies Visual Map and the online Abstention Notification Form
based upon feedback received.
Visual Map (http://gnso.icann.org/council/visual-procedures-map-
1) Changed title to “Voting Remedies: Abstentions, Absences,
2) Removed a redundant step in the Planned Absence structure
(per Chuck’s suggestion).
3) Added larger Email Icons to indicate where sample message
contents are provided and located them to the right side of each
block for consistency with the Note icons.
4) All of the pop-up text is now available to be copied/
pasted to simplify creating an Email message using the sample
5) Repositioned sections to enable the addition of flow
arrows to make it easier to follow the procedure.
Abstention Notification Form (http://gnso.icann.org/node/14119)
1) Changed several field labels to include the word “Officer”
to make clear who completes this form.
2) Reordered the fields based upon feedback (e.g. moved
“Officer Email Address” to top section).
3) Added conditional logic to the form so that, once a
particular voting remedy is selected, only the appropriate fields
The above changes are intended to make the procedures map and the
online form easier to understand, follow, and execute.
I thank you all for your constructive feedback in helping to make
these tools more useful to the GNSO community. I also thank our
responsive ICANN Web-Admin team for their flexibility and
creativity in implementing the above design enhancements.
For those SGs and Constituencies that have yet to take advantage
of the offer, Staff remains available to provide a tutorial on the
new Voting Remedies including the procedures map and online form.
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