RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Definitions...

[Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>]

Michael, your "long-winded" comment is exactly why I am recommending 
a shorter formal definition for the purposes of our discussion. We 
will inevitably resort to shorter forms in talking (and writing) and 
I would prefer that they not be ad hoc.
Alan

At 11/08/2009 12:21 PM, Michael D. Palage wrote:

> Alan,
>
> You kind of beat me to the "send" button.
>
> May I suggest that instead of using the term "Original" which might cause
> confusion between the individuals that originally registered the name, that
> we use the term "Registered Name Holder prior to the expiration date"
> (RNHPED).
>
> While I appreciated that this may be a little long winded, the term
> expiration date is also a term used in the various agreements.
>
> From the RAA - "the expiration date of the registration" and "3.3.1.5 The
> expiration date of the registration;" and "3.7.5.4. .......'the domain's
> expiration date'"
>
> I think we are on more solid ground the closer we stay true to legal terms
> already incorporated into the existing legal agreements.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:57 AM
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> Subject: [gnso-pednr-dt] Definitions...
>
>
> I had volunteered to try to define the term we will use for the
> entity who held a domain name just prior to exiration.
>
> In mid-term, the RAA uses the term "Registered Name Holder" and in
> conversation, we tend to use the term "Registrant" to denote the
> entity that the Registrar believes has acquired the domain name and
> the information which is put in the appropriate Whois database.
>
> I suggest that the above definition be refined if necessary, and that
> for the purposes of this PDP, we use the terms "Registered Name
> Holder" and "Registrant" interchangeably.
>
> I further suggest that we prefix either term with the word "Original"
> to denote the Registrant at the time just prior to expiration. It has
> been suggested that "original" might be referring to the entity that
> registered the name in the first place (potentially several years
> ago), but for the purposes of this discussion who held the name in
> the very first place is not particularly relevant.
>
> There have been some reports that (particularly for web-hosting
> resellers), a domain name is never put in the name of the entity that
> requested the name (despite there being no proxy-type agreement), and
> we may need to come up with terms that address this situation as well.
>
> Alan