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RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period and blackout
- To: masonc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period and blackout
- From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:53:23 -0700
Mason and Team:
I tend to agree. In fact, this could generate even more confusion for
registrants, especially those who are unclear on what will happen to
their names upon expiry.
Thanks-
J.
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James M. Bladel
jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal
> period and blackout
> From: "Mason Cole" <masonc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, January 17, 2011 6:26 pm
> To: "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>, "PEDNR"
> <gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Alan --
>
> I have to say that I don't know how this could be engineered into
> registrar systems, implemented, complied with and enforced as policy by
> ICANN. I don't know how it would reasonably be explained to our
> customers in a way they could understand. I don't even think I
> understand it myself.
>
> Please take my input as polite and constructive, as it's intended. I
> just don't believe, based on operational experience, that these kinds of
> engineering minutiae will add clarity or prevent unintended losses.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:39 PM
> To: PEDNR
> Subject: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period
> and blackout
>
>
> As discussed during our last meeting, here is a proposal that may
> satisfy the needs of registrars while still meeting the "blackout"
> requirement that many users feel is needed.
>
> Note that I personally am still not accepting the 10-day period
> proposed by James, but I am interested in trying to close the other
> differences that we have and perhaps this proposal will help move us
> in the right direction.
>
> I have thought about this proposal a fair amount since our meeting,
> and what follows is a bit different from what I proposed then. This
> difference, I believe, will allow it to be acceptable to all without
> the need for any exceptions. For brevity, I am using the term
> "blackout" to refer to the redirection or unavailability of port 80
> traffic, and the lack of any response on all other ports.
>
> ****
>
> The domain name will be renewable by the RAE for a period of no less
> than 10 full days after expiration, but in all cases for at least 8
> full days after the domain name is blacked out. This notwithstanding,
> the Registrar may Delete the name at any time after expiration and
> prior to renewal by the RAE.
>
> ****
>
> Examples:
>
> - A registrar that blacks out the domain soon after expiration must
> provide only 10 days.
> - A registrar who chooses to give 30 days grace before blackout must
> provide 38 days total.
> - A registrar who chooses to give a registrant 6 months grace (for
> whatever reason) can do so, but they must still blackout the name
> prior to making it no longer renewable by the RAE.
> - A registrar who wants to delete the name at any time once it has
> expired and has not been renewed by the RAE may do so without notice
> or delete. It will then go into the 30 day RGP. This will be true
> during the 45 day ARGP or during the period that follows (assuming
> the registrar has accepted the registry renewal but has still not had
> the RAE renew his/her contract with the registrar.
>
> I look forward to hearing comments on this.
>
> Alan
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