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RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period and blackout

  • To: masonc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period and blackout
  • From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:53:23 -0700

Mason and Team:

I tend to agree. In fact, this could generate even more confusion for
registrants, especially those who are unclear on what will happen to
their names upon expiry. 

Thanks-

J.

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James M. Bladel

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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal
> period and blackout
> From: "Mason Cole" <masonc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, January 17, 2011 6:26 pm
> To: "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>,        "PEDNR"
> <gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Alan --
> 
> I have to say that I don't know how this could be engineered into
> registrar systems, implemented, complied with and enforced as policy by
> ICANN.  I don't know how it would reasonably be explained to our
> customers in a way they could understand.  I don't even think I
> understand it myself.
> 
> Please take my input as polite and constructive, as it's intended.  I
> just don't believe, based on operational experience, that these kinds of
> engineering minutiae will add clarity or prevent unintended losses.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:39 PM
> To: PEDNR
> Subject: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period
> and blackout
> 
> 
> As discussed during our last meeting, here is a proposal that may 
> satisfy the needs of registrars while still meeting the "blackout" 
> requirement that many users feel is needed.
> 
> Note that I personally am still not accepting the 10-day period 
> proposed by James, but I am interested in trying to close the other 
> differences that we have and perhaps this proposal will help move us 
> in the right direction.
> 
> I have thought about this proposal a fair amount since our meeting, 
> and what follows is a bit different from what I proposed then. This 
> difference, I believe, will allow it to be acceptable to all without 
> the need for any exceptions. For brevity, I am using the term 
> "blackout" to refer to the redirection or unavailability of port 80 
> traffic, and the lack of any response on all other ports.
> 
> ****
> 
> The domain name will be renewable by the RAE for a period of no less 
> than 10 full days after expiration, but in all cases for at least 8 
> full days after the domain name is blacked out. This notwithstanding, 
> the Registrar may Delete the name at any time after expiration and 
> prior to renewal by the RAE.
> 
> ****
> 
> Examples:
> 
> - A registrar that blacks out the domain soon after expiration must 
> provide only 10 days.
> - A registrar who chooses to give 30 days grace before blackout must 
> provide 38 days total.
> - A registrar who chooses to give a registrant 6 months grace (for 
> whatever reason) can do so, but they must still blackout the name 
> prior to making it no longer renewable by the RAE.
> - A registrar who wants to delete the name at any time once it has 
> expired and has not been renewed by the RAE may do so without notice 
> or delete. It will then go into the 30 day RGP. This will be true 
> during the 45 day ARGP or during the period that follows (assuming 
> the registrar has accepted the registry renewal but has still not had 
> the RAE renew his/her contract with the registrar.
> 
> I look forward to hearing comments on this.
> 
> Alan


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