RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period and blackout

[Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>]

Mason, perhaps I am missing something but I don't understand the problem.

No registrar needs to build a system that can implement all possible 
scenarios. You decide what implementation(s) meet you business model. 
You explain to your customers what YOU do, not all of the variations 
that the policy allows.
Bottom line is that prior to taking irrevocable action which will no 
longer allow an RAE to renew (except Deletion), there must be 8 full 
days of blackout. When that comes in the overall scheme is up to you. 
Marika can try to verify, but my recollection is that according to 
their answers, all registrars who were surveyed at the start of this 
PDP are already compliant using their current processes and policies.
Alan

At 17/01/2011 07:26 PM, Mason Cole wrote:
> Alan --
>
> I have to say that I don't know how this could be engineered into
> registrar systems, implemented, complied with and enforced as policy by
> ICANN.  I don't know how it would reasonably be explained to our
> customers in a way they could understand.  I don't even think I
> understand it myself.
>
> Please take my input as polite and constructive, as it's intended.  I
> just don't believe, based on operational experience, that these kinds of
> engineering minutiae will add clarity or prevent unintended losses.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:39 PM
> To: PEDNR
> Subject: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period
> and blackout
>
>
> As discussed during our last meeting, here is a proposal that may
> satisfy the needs of registrars while still meeting the "blackout"
> requirement that many users feel is needed.
>
> Note that I personally am still not accepting the 10-day period
> proposed by James, but I am interested in trying to close the other
> differences that we have and perhaps this proposal will help move us
> in the right direction.
>
> I have thought about this proposal a fair amount since our meeting,
> and what follows is a bit different from what I proposed then. This
> difference, I believe, will allow it to be acceptable to all without
> the need for any exceptions. For brevity, I am using the term
> "blackout" to refer to the redirection or unavailability of port 80
> traffic, and the lack of any response on all other ports.
>
> ****
>
> The domain name will be renewable by the RAE for a period of no less
> than 10 full days after expiration, but in all cases for at least 8
> full days after the domain name is blacked out. This notwithstanding,
> the Registrar may Delete the name at any time after expiration and
> prior to renewal by the RAE.
>
> ****
>
> Examples:
>
> - A registrar that blacks out the domain soon after expiration must
> provide only 10 days.
> - A registrar who chooses to give 30 days grace before blackout must
> provide 38 days total.
> - A registrar who chooses to give a registrant 6 months grace (for
> whatever reason) can do so, but they must still blackout the name
> prior to making it no longer renewable by the RAE.
> - A registrar who wants to delete the name at any time once it has
> expired and has not been renewed by the RAE may do so without notice
> or delete. It will then go into the 30 day RGP. This will be true
> during the 45 day ARGP or during the period that follows (assuming
> the registrar has accepted the registry renewal but has still not had
> the RAE renew his/her contract with the registrar.
>
> I look forward to hearing comments on this.
>
> Alan