Re: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period and blackout

[MICHAEL YOUNG <myoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Clarification? Does blackout include cases where there is only a port 80
redirect (other DNS records (IE MX) remain as is)? Or is it defined as no
DNS resolution whatsoever?

Michael Young

From:  Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
Date:  Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:38:01 -0800
To:  Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>, PEDNR
<gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject:  Re: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period
and blackout

As an additional clarification, there is no requirement to blackout
unless/until the registrar no longer wants to guarantee ability to renew.

Marika

From:  Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
Date:  Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:02:46 -0800
To:  Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>, PEDNR
<gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject:  Re: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposal regarding Guaranteed renewal period
and blackout

In an attempt to facilitate the discussion, I've tried to clarify the
proposal that Alan submitted to the list as it seems that there is some
confusion as to what actually has been proposed. So here it goes:

Proposal (as made by Alan): The domain name will be renewable by the RAE for
a period of no less than 10 full days after expiration, but in all cases for
at least 8 full days after the domain name is blacked out. This
notwithstanding, the Registrar may Delete the name at any time after
expiration and prior to renewal by the RAE.

What would this mean in practice?
* Any registrant would have the possibility to recover its domain name
registration following expiration for a period of at least 10 days
* If and when a registrar blacks out the domain name registration, the RAE
should have at least have 8 full days to recover the domain name
registration. Please note that this is not a requirement to black out the
domain name registration. Only if and when a registrar to decides to black
out a domain name registration, this provision would be applicable. The
assumption is that if all other warnings have failed to reach or attract the
attention of the RAE, the blacking out might be the only thing that would
attract the attention and warn the RAE that the domain name registration has
expired.
* A registrar can delete the name at any point after expiration so that the
name enters the Redemption Grace Period
* Based on the results of the registrar survey, the impact would appear to
be minimal as many registrars already offer more than 10 days following
expiration for a registrant to recover his/her domain name registration and
do at some point in time black out the registration (again, under the
proposal, blacking out would not be a requirement.)
Rationale:
* Provide transparency and predictability with regard to the minimum level
of opportunity any registrant will have to recover their domain name
registration following expiration
* Avoid unintentional loss of a domain name registration
* Respect different practices of registrars and ensure minimal (or no)
impact on existing business practices
Hopefully this will help bring back the discussion to the actual proposal.

Best regards,

Marika

On 17/01/11 06:38, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> As discussed during our last meeting, here is a proposal that may
> satisfy the needs of registrars while still meeting the "blackout"
> requirement that many users feel is needed.
> 
> Note that I personally am still not accepting the 10-day period
> proposed by James, but I am interested in trying to close the other
> differences that we have and perhaps this proposal will help move us
> in the right direction.
> 
> I have thought about this proposal a fair amount since our meeting,
> and what follows is a bit different from what I proposed then. This
> difference, I believe, will allow it to be acceptable to all without
> the need for any exceptions. For brevity, I am using the term
> "blackout" to refer to the redirection or unavailability of port 80
> traffic, and the lack of any response on all other ports.
> 
> ****
> 
> The domain name will be renewable by the RAE for a period of no less
> than 10 full days after expiration, but in all cases for at least 8
> full days after the domain name is blacked out. This notwithstanding,
> the Registrar may Delete the name at any time after expiration and
> prior to renewal by the RAE.
> 
> ****
> 
> Examples:
> 
> - A registrar that blacks out the domain soon after expiration must
> provide only 10 days.
> - A registrar who chooses to give 30 days grace before blackout must
> provide 38 days total.
> - A registrar who chooses to give a registrant 6 months grace (for
> whatever reason) can do so, but they must still blackout the name
> prior to making it no longer renewable by the RAE.
> - A registrar who wants to delete the name at any time once it has
> expired and has not been renewed by the RAE may do so without notice
> or delete. It will then go into the 30 day RGP. This will be true
> during the 45 day ARGP or during the period that follows (assuming
> the registrar has accepted the registry renewal but has still not had
> the RAE renew his/her contract with the registrar.
> 
> I look forward to hearing comments on this.
> 
> Alan
> 
>