RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Another try at a middle ground

["Michael Young" <myoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes that's the intention.

 

Michael Young

 

M:+1-647-289-1220

 

From: Berry Cobb [mailto:berrycobb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: February-01-11 1:49 PM
To: 'PEDNR'
Subject: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Another try at a middle ground

 

Michael,

 

Did you mean "only the RAE"?

 

 

For at least 8 concurrent days, at some point following expiration, the
original DNS resolution path of the RAE, at the time of expiration, must be
interrupted, and the domain must be renewable <<only>> by the RAE until the
end of that period. 

This 8-day period may occur at any time following expiration. 

 

Notwithstanding, the registrar may <<must>> delete the domain at any time
during the Auto-renew grace period.

 

WRT to this last "Notwithstanding,.." Statement, if I am making the correct
connection, directly maps to RAA 3.7.5.3 of the current EDDP.   If this is
true, then your statement would read "...a domain name must be deleted
within 45 days of the registrar or the registrant terminating a registration
agreement."

 

To remain on this topic and perhaps this becomes a learning opportunity for
me, 3.7.5.3 in its present form confuses me when I try to understand the
EDDP process today.  When I key of the phrase, ".must be deleted within 45
days..," how is it with today's expiration processes that not all expired
domains become deleted by the registrar?  Or am I mistaken and all expired
domains are in fact deleted and therefore traverse RGP?  If the latter is
true, then if all expired domains "are" deleted and thus enter RGP.  Isn't
this the essence of the "adequate opportunity to recover the domain?" from
our charter question?  Isn't this the very reasoning why the former chair of
the GNSO council and co-developer of RGP many years ago has publicly stated
that RGP should probably be consensus policy?  I welcome anyone to correct
my logic offline and simply want to make sure I have a full understanding
for this WG's closure.

 

Berry Cobb

Infinity Portals LLC

berrycobb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

http://infinityportals.com

720.839.5735

 

From: owner-gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Michael Young
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:22 AM
To: PEDNR
Subject: [gnso-pednr-dt] Another try at a middle ground

 

Hi all,

 

Below is a recommendation crafted out as a "suggested"  middle ground and it
is intended to replace both the guaranteed recovery period proposal
suggested by  James and Alan's proposal are darkening the domain.

 

In this version, there is not a complete darkening of the domain, but the
DNS resolution path is expected to be interrupted (redirection). Where the
guaranteed recovery period occurs during the 45 day grace period is now at
the discretion of the Registrar - this should minimize (or hopefully
eliminate) impact to existing business models.   If this doesn't get the
attention of a registrant that has gone awol, then I really don't know what
cost effective/reasonable measure could.

 

This also allows Registrars to charge a premium for renewals after expiry
but prior to RGP, but as I read the rest of the recommendations, that
knowledge would be made explicitly available to the registrant prior to
expiration.

 

New Recommendation:

 

For at least 8 concurrent days, at some point following expiration, the
original DNS resolution path of the RAE, at the time of expiration, must be
interrupted, and the domain must be renewable by the RAE until the end of
that period. 

This 8-day period may occur at any time following expiration. 

 

Notwithstanding, the registrar may delete the domain at any time during the
Auto-renew grace period.

 

 

 

Is this something that might work for both sides here?

 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

Michael Young 

Vice President, Product Development 

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