Re: [gnso-pednr-dt] PEDNR Recommendations 16, 17

[Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>]

Berry, thanks for starting this thread. My comments embedded below.

At 27/06/2011 03:03 PM, Berry Cobb wrote:
> I guess you can say Recommendation #16 is complete (to a certain degree).
A pretty low degree if I am any judge. At least based on my expectations.

> A footnote to the Registrant Rights & 
> Responsibilities, just posted by ICANN today, references the gTLD lifecycle.
> <http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/registrant-rights-responsibilities-en.htm>http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/registrant-rights-responsibilities-en.htm
> http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/gtld-lifecycle.htm (footnote #1)
>
> I understand that the PEDNR recommendations are 
> not consensus policy, because the Council has 
> yet to vote and of course implement.
No, it is not Consensus Policy until Council 
approves, the Board approves it, and there is an 
acceptable implementation with reasonable target 
dates. That is still a long way off.
>  Despite this, I was under the impression that 
> no Working Group member was pleased with the 
> accuracy and representation of this the gTLD 
> lifecycle diagram. I cannot speak for other 
> members, but I certainly do not support 
> it.  Plus, my worst fears are being realized by 
> ICANN promoting this diagram and the conundrum 
> I predicted is starting to materialize.  If I 
> recall correctly during WG deliberations there 
> was a lack of support for any specific 
> recommendation that a process diagram outlining 
> the Expiration process be created.
I think that is accurate. There was some 
discussion that we needed a diagram, but there 
was pretty much agreement that THIS diagram was 
not the one. I find it unfortunate that this one was posted at this time.
> No doubt if PEDNR recommendations are adopted, 
> then this diagram becomes invalid.  My question 
> back to the WG, absent any CP on PEDNR 
> recommendations, is should ICANN & the Community 
> even advertise this gTLD lifecycle diagram to begin with?
As noted above, I agree that posting this one 
which will at best, confuse, was a bad idea.
That being said, there does seem to be some 
desire for *A* diagram, and once Council approves 
our recommendations, perhaps some of us who are 
interested might start trying to put together 
something that is useful (I have no pre-conceived 
notions of exactly what that would be).
> I look forward to hearing responses.  Thanks.
>
> As a side note?..  The RtRRof2009RAA makes for 
> some great bedtime reading.  I am not familiar 
> with the project plan for rolling out this 
> material, but I hope there is a more exciting 
> platform for Registrants to digest this 
> information. Else, we may encounter the same 
> results with Rt reading of Registrants Agreements, TOCs, etc?
Well, we have explicitly said that the info that 
is posted as a result of our PDP be created with 
our help. Let's hope we can all be more successful than this attempt.
Alan

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