RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] PEDNR Recommendations 16, 17

[Rob Hall <rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Actually, this is the diagram ICANN has used for the life cycle of a domain at 
many conferences.  I first introduced it when I spoke a few years ago on the 
subject, and ICANN refined it.

It was the same diagram that was used over and over at discussion and lectures, 
including the one Alan invited me to speak at that lead to the creation of this 
PENDR working group.

I believe the diagram is accurate, so I am not sure where people are saying it 
is wrong.

Personally, I don't think the bottom arrows that allude to tasting and drop 
catching are appropriate to have on the one that the registrants rights 
document links to, but I believe the actual domain life cycle to be accurate.

Rob.

From: owner-gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:35 AM
To: Berry Cobb
Cc: gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-pednr-dt] PEDNR Recommendations 16, 17

hm.  that's a truly terrible diagram and implies a uniformity across registrars 
that we all know isn't the case.

so Margie, why don't you ask the ICANN folks to take that down.  it's very 
misleading.

mikey


On Jun 27, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Berry Cobb wrote:


I guess you can say Recommendation #16 is complete (to a certain degree).

A footnote to the Registrant Rights & Responsibilities, just posted by ICANN 
today, references the gTLD lifecycle.
http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/registrant-rights-responsibilities-en.htm
http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/gtld-lifecycle.htm (footnote #1)

I understand that the PEDNR recommendations are not consensus policy, because 
the Council has yet to vote and of course implement.  Despite this, I was under 
the impression that no Working Group member was pleased with the accuracy and 
representation of this the gTLD lifecycle diagram.  I cannot speak for other 
members, but I certainly do not support it.  Plus, my worst fears are being 
realized by ICANN promoting this diagram and the conundrum I predicted is 
starting to materialize.  If I recall correctly during WG deliberations there 
was a lack of support for any specific recommendation that a process diagram 
outlining the Expiration process be created.

No doubt if PEDNR recommendations are adopted, then this diagram becomes 
invalid.  My question back to the WG, absent any CP on PEDNR recommendations, 
is should ICANN & the Community even advertise this gTLD lifecycle diagram to 
begin with?

I look forward to hearing responses.  Thanks.

As a side note.....  The RtRRof2009RAA makes for some great bedtime reading.  I 
am not familiar with the project plan for rolling out this material, but I hope 
there is a more exciting platform for Registrants to digest this information. 
Else, we may encounter the same results with Rt reading of Registrants 
Agreements, TOCs, etc...


Berry Cobb
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