Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] RE: For final review - proposed WG Charter

[Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, that is much better.

On Jul 1, 2013, at 7:03 PM, "Gomes, Chuck" 
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Got it.  Thanks Tim.  Maybe we could word it something like this:  "Under what 
circumstances, if any, may  the GNSO Council make recommendations or state 
positions to the Board as a representative of the GNSO as a whole?"

Chuck

From: Tim Ruiz [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 6:56 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck
Cc: Tim Ruiz; Marika Konings; 
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Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] RE: For final review - proposed WG Charter

Got it. So what I meant was recommend - Under what circumstances, if any, may 
the GNSO recommend policy?" keeping in mind that it is policy in the general 
sense so may include but is not necessarily limited to Consensus Policy. At any 
rate, I do agree that we aren't missing anything if we delete the question 
altogether.

Tim


On Jul 1, 2013, at 6:50 PM, "Gomes, Chuck" 
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I like that wording better Tim but I think the answer is still the same.  At 
the same time, maybe there is some value in the WG finding this out for 
themselves.

Chuck

From: Tim Ruiz [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 6:48 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck
Cc: Marika Konings; 
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Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] RE: For final review - proposed WG Charter

I am ok with both of those changes, but I wonder if the intent of the 4.c 
question was "Under what circumstances, if any, may the GNSO establish policy?"

Tim

On Jul 1, 2013, at 6:41 PM, "Gomes, Chuck" 
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thanks Marika for the quick delivery of these documents.  And thanks to 
everyone for the excellent work.

I think the proposed charter looks really good but I did come up with one 
possible issue and one minor edit.

Under 'The WG may find the following questions helpful for completing the 
work:' on page 3 of the clean version, where did question 4.c come from:  
"Under what circumstances, if any, may the GNSO Council establish policy?"  It 
seems to me that we already know the answer to this: None.  The Bylaws are 
clear that the Council is a policy management body and not a policy making 
body.  It is the Council's role to 1) manage PDPs, ensuring that applicable 
process is followed and that all impacted stakeholders have opportunity to 
contribute according to the GNSO WG Guidelines; 2) make recommendations to the 
Board regarding consensus policies and/or other policies or best practices.  
The Bylaws make it clear that it is only the Board that may establish policy.  
I see no usefulness in asking the WG to answer this question because the answer 
is already known, so I suggest deleting it.

I also think a minor edit is needed in Deliverable 4 on page 5 of the clean 
version: "WG conclusions with regard to how ICANN Core Values relate to policy 
and implementation efforts and whether the identified core values apply 
differently to policy development work than to implementation of policy"

Chuck

From: 
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[mailto:owner-gnso-policyimpl-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marika Konings
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 4:32 PM
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Subject: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter

Dear All,

Please find attached for final review the latest version of the WG Charter 
which includes the edits discussed today. To facilitate your review, you'll 
find attached a clean as well as a redline version.

Please share any comments / edits you may have with the mailing list at the 
latest by 23.59 UTC on Tuesday 2 July.

Based on the feedback received at that point, we'll decide whether or not to go 
ahead with the meeting on Wednesday 3 July at 19.00 UTC.

The proposed motion will follow tomorrow.

Best regards,

Marika