[gnso-policyimpl-wg] Attendance and Recording Policy and Implementation WG meeting - 14th May 2014
Dear All, The next Policy and Implementation Working Group teleconference is scheduled for in two weeks' time on Wednesday 28th May 2014 at 1900 UTC for 1,5 hrs. Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working group call held on Wednesday 14th May 2014 at 19:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20140514en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar# <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may> may The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Greg Shatan - IPC Chuck Gomes - RySG Alan Greenberg - ALAC Olevie Kouami - NPOC Cheryl Langdon-Orr - At-Large Avri Doria - NCSG Phil Kanofsky - IPC Seun Ojedeji - NCUC Apologies: Anne Aikman- Scalese - IPC Nic Steinbach - RrSG ICANN staff: Marika Konings Mary Wong Amy Bivins Steve Chan Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Peregrine For GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 14h May Marika Konings:Welcome to the Policy & Implementation Working Group Meeting of 14 May 2014 Chuck Gomes:We will need to zoom in on a couple columns at at time to make this readable. Chuck Gomes:I am waiting for an operator. Mary Wong:Let us know when you're in. Marika Konings:You can zoom in by using the -/+ signs at the bottom Alan Greenberg:Waiting to get on bridge. I just sent some small changes to the spreadsheet to the list. BUt I can talk about them when we get there. Marika Konings:but it may be easier to look at it on your own screen Chuck Gomes:I will do that but others may not be able to do it. Marika Konings:I've uploaded the version that Alan just sent Chuck Gomes:The operator is very slow again. Marika Konings:I can also take control and zoom in for everyone Alan Greenberg::-) Chuck Gomes:I'm in. Alan Greenberg:on now Greg Shatan:I just got in as well. Marika Konings:If you haven't taken the poll yet, you can still do so: http://doodle.com/mbeakbr7xwruk667 Alan Greenberg:Before we start, thanks to staff who did an immense amount of work to get us this chart. Avri Doria:btw, on the meeting stuff. i out down that i did not care about weekly versus every other week. well i should care as i have another meeting in this time slot weekly, and it would be better if i only missed half of those. Alan Greenberg:+_ only goes to 400% which is just bareley readable on my large screen... Avri Doria:so i have changed my 'vote' Nathalie Peregrine:Seun Ojedeji has joined the call Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I am only in the AC room watching brief no audio input as I am on another call Chairing it in fact :-) :-) Olevie:Hi everyone ! Avri Doria:or we can append one to our defnitions from earlier in this project, Avri Doria:the one person could be a caretaker, whose may skill is knowing who else to contact. Avri Doria:... whose main skill ... Avri Doria:i think WG is importnat becasue we have guidelines for those. Olevie:i'm back Alan Greenberg:PDT is already a defined term in ICANN. ;-) Avri Doria:the current WG can eb done lightweight. Avri Doria:i like the idea of a std template charter, just plug in the question sent by the board. Avri Doria:we need to have the diversity and breadth for accountability. Mary Wong:@Avri, I'm not expressing a (staff) preference; just seeking clarity. One possible issue for flexibility and speed is the fact that GNSO WGs need to decide according to the specified Consensus Levels. Avri Doria:yeah, i am not recommening we give up bottom up consensus building. Mary Wong:In other words, is the group talking about a lightweight version of the current WG structure/guidelines or an additional, different, alternative? Alan Greenberg:I would suggest that we not use the term WG. The process to set up and charter a formal WG takes longer than the entire time allocated to some recent "guidance" processes. Avri Doria:that i would be loathe to do. voting is at the council level, and i dont waan to see that change. Avri Doria:you may not , i do Avri Doria:yeah, we could define the template. Avri Doria:those are PDPD not WG Avri Doria:meeting times is not part of WG guidelines, it is gnso practice Avri Doria:all those time outs for specific outside processes are drive by the PDP, not the wg guidelines. Avri Doria:... times out ... Avri Doria:i think we have to call it a WG. Avri Doria:i just recently reread the WG guidelines. i dont see a problem. Avri Doria:the GNSO WG is our brand. lets no abandon it. Avri Doria:why, i think we have even used the WG guidelines in non GNSO wg. Avri Doria:chartering is solved by the template. Avri Doria:and we dont want to get rid of consensus. Alan Greenberg:Annex A allows for PDPs to be done using some other model than a WG, but that does not remove the reporting and PC requirements. That are part of the PDP, not the WG model. Avri Doria:we can define 'lightweight' in the template. Alan Greenberg:WE are getting close to the point where we need to talk about meeting schedules Mary Wong:@Avri I should have prob said chartering and composition of such a group. Avri Doria:chartering is just a vote. Avri Doria:compostion shold be diverse and yes there should be rep from every GNSO SG. Mary Wong:QUESTION: would the RC-IOC Drafting Team (not the consequent PDP WG) be a prime candidate for the model we are discussing? Avri Doria:Mary, i think so Mary Wong:@Avri, yes but a Charter still needs to be drafted and discussed. Even if staff produces the initial draft, that could still add to the time people may need to deliberate and redraft ... Avri Doria:of coursde an IRT could, it is just that they would have to recommend that to the council. Avri Doria:if the charter is a tmeplate - use by just filling i tht e question, is trivial. Avri Doria:Mary, and of course if there is a desire to delay, then no process is fast, not can any process be made fast. thee are an infinite number of ways to delay. Alan Greenberg:I thought we were using the term MS meaning an Opportunity to be MS, not requiring participation. Avri Doria:a few of us could volunteer to create a sample template. charter. Avri Doria:i will play the charter game. Greg Shatan:I will also play Greg Shatan:Need to improve hand management skills.... Alan Greenberg:http://doodle.com/mbeakbr7xwruk667 Seun:2 people for weekly 90min Avri Doria:with every other week mtgs if needs be, ad hoc subgroups working on a task can meet during the intermediate week. Seun:May i suggest we have weekly meetings when its 1 month to f2f Avri Doria:gives 2 longer drrafting periods Avri Doria:sure, if we want ignore thepreference Seun:yes Greg Shatan:I would favor Alan's suggestion; I think we would get more done... Alan Greenberg:Chuck, time for an executive decision. Mary Wong:We will change the calendar and send out a note on the new schedule. Avri Doria:even if we all just spent 90 minutes week working on an issue instead of jawboning, we would get more done. Avri Doria:90 minute during intermediate week. Seun:Thanks Seun:bye Attachment:
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